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请教这副牌如何再叫?

#1 User is offline   wuhuan 

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Posted 2013-June-02, 23:54

N开叫:
1S-1NT
2C-?2D或?
如果S的牌草花去掉一个J,如何再叫?
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Posted 2013-June-03, 00:28


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Posted 2013-June-03, 00:56

1、如果是Bart约定叫,就叫2并准备放过同伴的2或者2叫品。
2、2不是约定叫的话,可以PASS!但:为什么是叫2而不是叫2呢?
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Posted 2013-June-03, 01:05

2后我会叫2,同伴再叫2,就pass。
若是去掉一个J,2后简单叫2,把K当成XX来叫,或pass。
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Posted 2013-June-03, 01:07

PASS 2C 再叫
如果PD应叫 2D,也是PASS
1444的低限牌最好的选择是PASS。
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Posted 2013-June-03, 01:25

使用巴特的话,虽然这个2c只保证2+,也只能pass。开叫人再叫2c,h低于3张的可能性比c2张大的多,2c也可能3+,但h最多3张甚至可能单缺。叫2d明显不怎么靠谱,只能选择pass。
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Posted 2013-June-03, 01:35

我绝不pass,也许存在埋单,也在所不惜,这是作为搭档的诚信,绝不为一副牌而失去同伴的信任!否则不配做别人的好搭档。
就叫2,暗示拒绝同伴的进局试探。
这牌8p,因为配合不好,按照低限处理。
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Posted 2013-June-03, 01:40

2作为逼叫叫品,应叫人是没有理由pass的,没有坚定的执着和信任,永远打不好桥牌,也不配做搭档。2是有机会的。如果北打宕,那么开叫人开叫1不是一点没有问题的,但总归搭档间的约定和风格而定。
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Posted 2013-June-03, 01:43

这是一副能够赢得搭档充分信任的一副牌,不论输赢,你都会赢得同伴的尊重与信任,特好的考验牌面啊。而见异思迁,永难得心应手。
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Posted 2013-June-03, 02:53

 lycier, on 2013-June-03, 01:40, said:

2作为逼叫叫品,应叫人是没有理由pass的,没有坚定的执着和信任,永远打不好桥牌,也不配做搭档。2是有机会的。如果北大当,那么开叫人开叫1不是一点没有问题的,但总归搭档间的约定和风格而定。

领导认为这个2c是逼叫的吗? 看来自己的知识又落后了,得赶紧补上。不过这个2c为什么定义为逼叫呢? 21世纪的二盖一的书也查了一下,这个2c的确是不逼叫的,在上册64页也给出了2个pass2c的牌列。就这牌而言,因为SK虽然是单张,但也算是个支持,打51的2s也是一个可行的选择。但为什么把2c定义为逼叫,对我这样的爱好者来说,确有困惑之处。希望领导此处能详细的讲解一下。
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Posted 2013-June-03, 06:21

既然2否定逼局实力,当然可以PASS
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Posted 2013-June-03, 06:23

我们打约定性的2NT加叫。所以2C是逼叫,不能PASS. 叫2S好。
但叫2D似乎也是选择。同伴再叫2H,2S都pass。一切都来得及。
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Posted 2013-June-03, 09:22

约定2C逼叫,就叫2D
低花什么长叫什么.
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Posted 2013-June-03, 20:09

我这样理解:
1.1S开叫,抢占了一阶最高位置,点有优势也带来应叫的一些困难,因为应叫人的二阶的2C/D/H都是进局逼叫了。
2.1S-1N,这个1N因为上1所述,不得不是5-12-HCP的宽泛范围及非均型的牌的可能。
3.1S-1N-2C:如果开叫人在二阶再叫新花保证四张时,那这个2C只能保证2张了。
那么,应叫人好的5张C,可以PASS。否则应该叫牌,
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Posted 2013-June-03, 23:51

2C是约定性叫牌(不是自然叫牌)我觉得还不如叫2D
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Posted 2013-June-04, 00:31

为何开叫都不再叫2D 呢,此牌这地方我有不同意见!
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Posted 2013-June-04, 01:22

为什么不叫2d是因为21世纪体系下册中,推荐使用巴特约定叫。这个时候再叫2d通常保证4张,5332时,一般选择叫2c。
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Posted 2013-June-04, 01:43

我在论坛上写过一篇《使用巴特的2C逼叫吗?》,用牌例说明了2C是必应的,其实2C可以看作是个寻问叫品,总是要回答的。http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/56448-%26-20351%3B%26-29992%3B%26-24052%3B%26-29305%3B%26-32422%3B%26-23450%3B%26-21483%3B%26-30340%3B2c%26-36924%3B%26-21483%3B%26-21527%3B%26-65311%3B/
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Posted 2013-June-04, 04:03

请参看河江的这个贴子。
http://www.bridgebas...3B%26-65311%3B/
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Posted 2013-June-05, 10:10

谢谢各位的指导,受益了!
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