[Phil]

Matchpoints, NV

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[whereagles]

3♥, wtp?

[mtvesuvius]

Yep, I paused for a second to consider if 5♦ would be better, but partner has to have other values outside ♦, and if they have a heart stop, 3N is our destination. I don't think pass is right, and I open a lot of garbage...

[the hog]

Wouldn't 3H suggest a half stopper here? It would for me. so I am bidding 3S. I cannot have a S suit, so there should be no ambiguity here.

[mtvesuvius]

I agree, but I think 3♠ suggests playing someplace other than 3N, probably 5♦. If I was completely confident that partner would bid 3N with a heart stopper now, I'd bid 3♠, but I don't think that it should be still looking for 3N.

[rogerclee]

I think pass is pretty clear actually. Bidding 3H is asking for a lot, if we have 1 heart and 4 diamonds then game is usually bad or hopeless, and if we have 1 heart and 5 diamonds we are still not out of the woods, we still need partner to have the club ace or 3 spade tricks on a heart lead.

By the way if we are actually w/r as opposed to w/w, then I think bidding 3H is even worse, since RHO is more likely to have values (namely a minor ace).

[Fluffy]

24 HCP game with 2 hands that might be balanced and without a stopper in their suit is very hard to acomplish if you don't have a fit in a major.

Agree with Roger that pass is clear.

[gordontd]

Fluffy, on 2011-January-23, 07:07, said:

24 HCP game with 2 hands that might be balanced and without a stopper in their suit is very hard to acomplish if you don't have a fit in a major.

Agree with Roger that pass is clear.

Me too

[Phil]

I think pass is obvious too. This occurred in the game I direct. Save the no-play NV games for IMPs please.

A strong player who hires a pro asked me what I'd bid. At the table he bid 3♠ and his partner bid 4♣. He thought he could then pull back with 4♦ which he thought could be passed, but instead he was hoping for some magical combo across and tried 5♦. Partner had something like xx QJ AJxxx AQxx.

Perhaps the most amazing thing wasn't that he thought game could make but rather if he cued 3♠, but that his partner would pass 4♦ (after 4♣), but his partner agreed !?

[Cyberyeti]

Phil, on 2011-January-22, 17:04, said:

Matchpoints, NV

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What is 2♥ here ? 4 card raise to 3+? (I'm used to a 4 card 1♦, still bid 2♦ inverted with this type of hand, weak no trump setup)

The dangerous hands are where partner has 3 bare aces and 5 diamonds in a weak no trump, or (xx, Kx) either way round, Axxxx, AQxx.

[Cascade]

Pass is clear especially if partner could have bid 2NT with a 12-14 Balanced hand with a stopper on the previous round.

I invited with 3♦ and partner decline - end of story.

Edit: whoops i meant 2♥ not 3♦