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2 passed hands going to the 5 level?

#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2011-January-20, 19:09

♠-
♥Q1098
♦KJ10
♣K109753

all vul, IMPs

pass-(pass)-pass-(1♠)
double-(2♥!)-double-(4♠)
??

2♥= 3 ♠ 8-10 HCP
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Posted 2011-January-21, 04:30

Partner's double suggests he has exactly 4 hearts. Maybe he wasn't willing to go to the 3-level by himself and would have passed out 2S. Should we take that as a cue to go to the 5-level now? I would pass, partner's hand can easily be as defensive as QJ10x AJxx xxx xx.
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Posted 2011-January-21, 05:39

Agree. The hand is very defensive, although finding pard with QJTx of spades is a bit lyrical. Pass.
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Posted 2011-January-21, 06:23

I`d double with hopes of delivering the message do something intelligent partner I have extra offense and defense.
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Posted 2011-January-21, 09:27

I assume this is a lead question any of T♥ , J♦, or T♣ could work but I would try the T♥. I definitely would not lead a trump :) :)
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Posted 2011-January-21, 09:53

I lead a heart
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Posted 2011-January-22, 08:42

I bid the stupid 5♥ catching partner with

♠J10xxx
♥AKxxx
♦xxx
♣-

-200 instead of +200/500
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Posted 2011-January-22, 17:21

Ahem... I'm not sure pard's dbl over 2♥ is adequate. Thing is, he knows you have a spade void. The last thing he wants is to suggest a save over a doomed 4♠.

Sure, he can argue his dbl is "just for the lead", but how are you supposed to guess between his hand and, say,

xxxx
AKJTx
xxx
x
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Posted 2011-January-23, 05:24

Partner is closer to a 4♥ bid than to a pass of 2♥.
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Posted 2011-January-23, 05:35

View PostFluffy, on 2011-January-22, 08:42, said:

I bid the stupid 5♥ catching partner with

♠J10xxx
♥AKxxx
♦xxx
♣-

-200 instead of +200/500



View Postwhereagles, on 2011-January-22, 17:21, said:

Ahem... I'm not sure pard's dbl over 2♥ is adequate. Thing is, he knows you have a spade void. The last thing he wants is to suggest a save over a doomed 4♠.

Sure, he can argue his dbl is "just for the lead", but how are you supposed to guess between his hand and, say,

xxxx
AKJTx
xxx
x



Both of these hands look like 3H bids to me.
I don't think you should be acting again even opposite a 3H bid. Partner knows you are a passed hand and hence you will be very pure. It's easier than if you weren't a passed hand.
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Posted 2011-January-23, 12:27

Well, I might bid 3♥ on the 2nd one. Certainly not on the 1st one, for the reasons mentioned above (not to induce a save).
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