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After a balance

Poll: After a balance (25 member(s) have cast votes)

After a balance

  1. 3D (20 votes [80.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.00%

  2. 3H (1 votes [4.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.00%

  3. 3S (1 votes [4.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.00%

  4. 4D (3 votes [12.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.00%

  5. 4H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2008-November-14, 16:02

x Jxxx Kxxxxx Kx

red/white; IMPs

1 - pass - 2 - pass;
pass - 2N - pass - ?

2N is 2 places to play
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Posted 2008-November-14, 16:24

3

Ist rule of balancing: don't hang partner

If we knew he had diamonds, I would bid 4, but this is not a hand to play 4 on a 4-4 fit when he has rounded suits
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Posted 2008-November-14, 16:31

I agree with my soul-brother :)
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Posted 2008-November-14, 21:21

Why don't we bid 3? Surely this is pass/correct. That way at least partner can bid 4m when lefty bids 3 now, as he surely will, given that they rate to have 9 or 10 spades. (I don't think partner should be balancing with significant spade length).

I think maybe the best reason not to do this is that they could easily be wrapping 4 and we're about to push them there.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 01:31

3 wtp
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Posted 2008-November-15, 03:06

karlson, on Nov 14 2008, 10:21 PM, said:

Why don't we bid 3? Surely this is pass/correct.
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No.

It simply says, shut up, no interest in clubs and diamonds.

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Posted 2008-November-15, 10:55

P_Marlowe, on Nov 15 2008, 01:06 AM, said:

karlson, on Nov 14 2008, 10:21 PM, said:

Why don't we bid 3? Surely this is pass/correct.
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No.

It simply says, shut up, no interest in clubs and diamonds.

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I can't imagine a hand that wants to voluntarily bid hearts after passing 2 in the face of pard's 2 suiter.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 11:00

It's extremely easy to imagine. You bid over 2 r/w with xx QJT9xxx xx xx?
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Posted 2008-November-15, 11:15

jdonn, on Nov 15 2008, 09:00 AM, said:

It's extremely easy to imagine. You bid over 2 r/w with xx QJT9xxx xx xx?

Maybe so. I will concede that its possible for me to have hearts only.

Anyway, I found a 4 call (I hope anyone isn't thinking 4 isn't p/c) .

Pard had: JTx AQ9xx x QJxx. In spite of the wastage, 4 was making, but the opps took the par save to 4 x'd.

Is anyone raising 3 to 4? If thats the case, isn't a direct 4 better? Its very possible pard has three spades here, we are vul and its IMPs, so I expect a pretty good hand across.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 11:18

mikeh, on Nov 14 2008, 02:24 PM, said:

If we knew he had diamonds, I would bid 4, but this is not a hand to play 4 on a 4-4 fit when he has rounded suits

xxx AQxx x AJxxx looks pretty normal to me. Don't you want to be in 4 here?
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