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Posted 2008-November-11, 10:26

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Posted 2008-November-11, 10:34

ugh. pass.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 11:09

Pass, no ugh :(
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Posted 2008-November-11, 12:03

I double, if partner bids 3♠ is that usually so terrible? Could be but doesn't have to be, and anything at all that he does is good.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 12:50

I would double for sure.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 12:57

I'd pass for sure.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 13:02

Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 13:04

jdonn, on Nov 11 2008, 01:02 PM, said:

Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle.

I see Roger felt strongly about passing, but who doubled?
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Posted 2008-November-11, 13:18

cherdano, on Nov 11 2008, 02:04 PM, said:

jdonn, on Nov 11 2008, 01:02 PM, said:

Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle.

I see Roger felt strongly about passing, but who doubled?

han, on Nov 11 2008, 01:50 PM, said:

I would double for sure.


Oh wait, I said well-respected :P
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Posted 2008-November-11, 15:20

A friend of mine had a hand almost identical to this. We ended up in the functional equivalent of a 4-2 spade fit. It made, for a near top.

I mean, give partner a nice collection like the heart King, the club Ace, the spade Q10xx, and either the heart Jack of the club Queen. The opponents cash two diamonds, and he ruffs the third. After pulling trumps, hopefully 3-3 but possibly 4-2, he starts taking tricks. The opponents may well crash the 13th spade on a club or heart winner in the end position. These hands often feature a compression at the end.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 15:22

kenrexford, on Nov 11 2008, 03:20 PM, said:

A friend of mine had a hand almost identical to this. We ended up in the functional equivalent of a 4-2 spade fit. It made, for a near top.

I mean, give partner a nice collection like the heart King, the club Ace, the spade Q10xx, and either the heart Jack of the club Queen. The opponents cash two diamonds, and he ruffs the third. After pulling trumps, hopefully 3-3 but possibly 4-2, he starts taking tricks. The opponents may well crash the 13th spade on a club or heart winner in the end position. These hands often feature a compression at the end.

When Chuck Norris plays a 4-2 fit, trumps break 3-3...
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Posted 2008-November-11, 15:24

cherdano, on Nov 11 2008, 04:22 PM, said:

kenrexford, on Nov 11 2008, 03:20 PM, said:

A friend of mine had a hand almost identical to this.  We ended up in the functional equivalent of a 4-2 spade fit.  It made, for a near top.

I mean, give partner a nice collection like the heart King, the club Ace, the spade Q10xx, and either the heart Jack of the club Queen.  The opponents cash two diamonds, and he ruffs the third.  After pulling trumps, hopefully 3-3 but possibly 4-2, he starts taking tricks.  The opponents may well crash the 13th spade on a club or heart winner in the end position.  These hands often feature a compression at the end.

When Chuck Norris plays a 4-2 fit, trumps break 3-3...

Oops! LOLOL

OK -- hopefully 4-3 trumps. THEN the compression.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 15:25

jdonn, on Nov 11 2008, 02:02 PM, said:

Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle.

This can be usefully applied to politics and art criticism as well.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 16:11

Lobowolf, on Nov 11 2008, 04:25 PM, said:

jdonn, on Nov 11 2008, 02:02 PM, said:

Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle.

This can be usefully applied to politics and art criticism as well.

Actually I thought of specifically pointing out that it does NOT apply to politics.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 16:14

Lobowolf, on Nov 11 2008, 04:25 PM, said:

jdonn, on Nov 11 2008, 02:02 PM, said:

Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle.

This can be usefully applied to politics and art criticism as well.

I don't want to hear anything about art criticism.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 19:31

ArtK78, on Nov 11 2008, 05:14 PM, said:

Lobowolf, on Nov 11 2008, 04:25 PM, said:

jdonn, on Nov 11 2008, 02:02 PM, said:

Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle.

This can be usefully applied to politics and art criticism as well.

I don't want to hear anything about art criticism.

As opposed to politics, at least art criticism is something we can all agree on. :)
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Posted 2008-November-11, 19:46

Easy pass, a red vs W 3D preempt is an opening hand so my hope for game if partner cant balance are not so high.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 20:14

benlessard, on Nov 11 2008, 08:46 PM, said:

a red vs W 3D preempt is an opening hand

I hope you think so when you play against me!
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Posted 2008-November-11, 20:20

I like double.

If this is very wrong, the vulnerability should keep the resulting number down.

But doubling has a couple of upsides. It gets us to game when partner has a moderate hand with a diamond holding such as Kxx, when he would just pass out 3♦.
It also advertises values. LHO, with a moderate hand including a fitting diamond honor might be about to try 3NT, and if he does have such a hand, 3NT will often be cold. Perhaps either our double will frighten him out of trying 3NT, or at least give partner a chance to do something sensible such as bidding 4♥ if he does.

benlessard, on Nov 11 2008, 08:46 PM, said:

Easy pass, a red vs W 3D preempt is an opening hand so my hope for game if partner cant balance are not so high.


Umm, a red vs W 3D preempt is a preempt.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 23:30

jdonn, on Nov 11 2008, 04:11 PM, said:

Lobowolf, on Nov 11 2008, 04:25 PM, said:

jdonn, on Nov 11 2008, 02:02 PM, said:

Latest Josh's law: When well-respected members of society feel very strongly but in opposite directions about a bridge issue, the truth lies in the middle.

This can be usefully applied to politics and art criticism as well.

Actually I thought of specifically pointing out that it does NOT apply to politics.

I think it applies very well to politics. That is, if it's Jdonn deciding who are the well-respected members of society.
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