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#1 User is offline   fan13027 

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Posted 2008-November-02, 04:52

Dealer South
E/W Vulnerable
Scoring - Matchpoints

You are East and hold ...
AKT95
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AJ942
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South opens 1, your partner passes, North bids 1. What do you say?

I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I'm not sure about is that what you heard isn't exactly what I meant.

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Posted 2008-November-02, 08:03

2, michaels.
"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."

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Posted 2008-November-02, 08:11

Agree.

I like the layout but would prefer to see the suits in the order s-h-d-c.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-November-02, 08:16

W vs red you have to get in, and 2H is normal.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2008-November-02, 09:38

You are red against white.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-November-02, 12:34

Thanks for the responses and apologies to the experts to whom the answer seems so obvious ... perhaps my question was better suited to the Beginners and Intermediate (of which I am one) Bridge Discussion forum. I will try to be more aware next time I post.

Here is the entire hand layout ... I encountered it last night in a tournament I was playing in at BBO.

Scoring: MP


There were 80 tables in the tourney and not one single East used Michaels Cue Bid after the 1 opening by South (there were about 3 or 4 tables where South opened 1). Of the 80 tables only 2 ended the auction with the final contract held by East/West. One ended up at 3xW-1 and the other at 3E+1. And they only managed to bid to that because North responded 2 to South's opening bid allowing East to bid a natural 2.

Although I also list Michaels Cue Bid in my repertoire, I was unaware that it could be used in fourth seat after LHO opens ... it seems many other "self rated" advanced and expert players in that particular tourney were unaware of that as well :(

I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I'm not sure about is that what you heard isn't exactly what I meant.

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Posted 2008-November-02, 12:54

This is not as "easy" of a situation as the posts suggest. The key, IMO, is to remember that you often will "ignore" Responder's bid of a major. In other words, 1-P-1-2 is natural. If 2 is natural in that sequence, then Michaels seems to logically apply, as well, because of hands like this.

This is a great thing to know, especially considering the number of "fake" 3-card spade bids you actually see, shockingly, in practice.

I think you did post this in the right section, also. If the field all missed the 2 Michaels call, then it is not the average I/N bid.
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Posted 2008-November-04, 00:30

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You are red against white.


Than i think 2H is a bit dangerous because of the dreadful -200. I would pass
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2008-November-04, 03:11

Bear in mind that "just 2 of 80 tables" playing the contract E/W doesn't tell you a great deal about how many Easts got into the auction, given that NS are making 5D (yes, I can see 5Sx is a good save, but it's not a spot you would want to be in)
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Posted 2008-November-04, 04:53

Although I can see the logic of playing 2 as Michaels, I've (i) never seen it come up and (ii) never discussed it with anyone.

Clearly a beginner too.

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