[mike777]

1)one spade slow things down.
2) over 2h rebid i bid 3d.....slow things down.

[helene_t]

1NT planning to bid diamonds at the lowest possible level.

[mike777]

Jlall, on Jun 20 2008, 03:09 AM, said:

mike777, on Jun 20 2008, 03:07 AM, said:

2) over 2h rebid i bid 3d.....slow things down.

???

i assume 3d shows very long d.........and 4 spades and nonforce?

I assume I cannot show long spades.....and long d and game force here.

If I have that hand I must bid one spade and not rebid 3d here?
1h=1s=2h=?not 3 of minor?

In other words typical loss the minor strong suit in 2/1......is the price we pay.
AKXXX...VOID......AKXXX....XXX
i AM STUCK .....WITH 3NT REBID.

[andy_h]

My choice is 1♠.
Over 1NT I guess I'll make the overbid of 3♦.
Over 2♣ I will strain myself and bid 2♠
Over 2♦ it's $
Over 2♥ I'll pass.

[655321]

2♦, then spades then spades.

I can't describe this hand by responding 1♠ or 1NT, so by overbidding just a little (OK, overbidding by a lot ) I can at least show most of the distribution.

[ArtK78]

I am 7-5 and my partner opened the bidding?

2♦ game forcing followed by spades and spades.

I will take the chance that this is a misfit and look for game or slam in one of my suits.

It doesn't take much to produce a slam if there is a fit. Opposite Kx xxxxx KQx Axx you could have a grand with a little luck. Yes, I know I am dreaming, but that is not the point. The point is that this is a very good hand if there is a fit. I need to find that fit.

[cranebill]

I will bid 1 spade

Rebidding

1NT 2 diamonds (unless nmf)
2 clubs 2 diamonds
2 diamonds 3 diamonds
2 hearts pass (amending this to 3 diamonds after due consideration)
2 spades (I forgot this bid, I pass this)
2NT 3diamonds
3 clubs 3 diamonds
3 diamonds 5 diamonds
3 hearts 4 hearts
3 spades 4 spades
3NT pass


I am am not sure if I am correct, but looking at the hand, I think this is what I would do, due to playing limited amounts of conventions

I am not brave enough to bid 2 diamonds as a game force bid

[kenrexford]

Strain. 2♦.

[dicklont]

1♠
Tricky hand. When partner has some sort of fit for me (NT shows 2 diamonds) this is a nice hand. In a misfit I can offer only 1 or 2 tricks.

Over:
1NT - 2♦, sign off, longer ♦ than ♠
2♣ - 2♠ can't bid 4th suit here
2♦ - 3♦ happy to invite now, though the void in partners suit still worries me
2♥ - pass, why make things worse?
2♠ - 4♠ should have good chances in the cross ruff
2NT - 3♦ and 5♦ over 3NT

[mikeh]

Thank god I am not red, where the stakes are higher.

I was going to bid 1♠, but then I thought about 2♣ by partner. That is possible and liable to make me puke... I simply cannot handle that call... I can't prefer to my void heart, I can't bid diamonds naturally, I can't rebid spades, and I can't pass or bid notrump. At least if he were to rebid 2♥, I could gamble a pass.

So ugly those this hand is, and much as I hate to gf, I think 2♦, with all its obvious flaws, is slightly better

2♦, then over

2♥ 2♠ and pray
2♠ yeah, that is going to happen
2N 3♦
3♣ 3♦
3♦ almost as unlikely (but just as welcome) as 2♠

[P_Marlowe]

Jlall, on Jun 20 2008, 03:02 AM, said:

You play 2/1 GF, imps white white.

KT9xx --- AT9xxxx x. Partner opens 1H, what do you bid? If you bid 1S what is your rebid plan over the likely rebids?

Hi,

1S.

I will pass 2C and 2H.

If 2C could be based on a 3 carder or is artificial
I will try to sign off in 2H.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jtfanclub]

P_Marlowe, on Jun 20 2008, 09:39 AM, said:

Hi,

1S.

I will pass 2C and 2H.

If 2C could be based on a 3 carder or is artificial
I will try to sign off in 2H.

People who 'preference' into a 5-0 fit when they have a seven card suit make baby Jesus cry.

[han]

I am not willing not to mention one of my suits. This means that over most likely rebids by partner I will have to force to game. Therefore I might as well bite the bullet immediately and show my suits in the right order: 2D.

If we have a terrible misfit then my choice will work out badly.

[P_Marlowe]

jtfanclub, on Jun 20 2008, 09:42 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Jun 20 2008, 09:39 AM, said:

Hi,

1S.

I will pass 2C and 2H.

If 2C could be based on a 3 carder or is artificial
I will try to sign off in 2H.

People who 'preference' into a 5-0 fit when they have a seven card suit make baby Jesus cry.

Sometimes the 5-0 fit turns out to be a 6-0 fit.
And sometimes opponents dont start to use the
red card if you happen to stop at a low level.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Echognome]

Is 3♦ IJS available? I might choose that over 2♦.

[awm]

I'll bid 1♠. I think catching a spade raise is one of the best ways to get to a reasonable game on this hand. My plan is:

(1) If partner rebids 1NT, I will show a diamond invite (2♣...3♦ using 2-way nmf).
(2) If partner rebids 2♣, I will show a 5-5 invite by rebidding 3♦. This is less of an overbid than forcing game.
(3) If partner rebids 2♦ I'll bid 4th suit GF and look for slam, but probably end in 5♦.
(4) If partner rebids 2♥ I will pass and hope for the best. At least partner usually raises with 3♠ and 6♥.
(5) If partner bids 2♠ I will find out if he has four card support and look for slam if so (else I will play 4♠).

I feel pretty confident that this path will be better than forcing game if partner does anything but rebid hearts at second turn. Even then, I will often come out ahead if partner has a strong suit and not very many diamonds.

[fromageGB]

Not such a bad hand if you play Kaplan inversion, as I do with my regular partners !

So 1NT showing the 5 spades, and over 2♣ bid 2♦ which is 4SF but then rebid 3♦ which is invitational strength. This is an overbid perhaps, but I think it important to show both suits.

Obviously the 1NT finds a 5/3 spade fit immediately, and over the 1NT partner is not going to bid 2♥ without 6, so I think it better to pass 2♥ rather than make a forcing 3♦.

If the bidding goes 1♥ 1NT 2♣ 2♦ 2♥ 3♦ and partner bids 3NT, I now bid 4♦ to show the hand well. As 1♥ 1NT 2♣ 3♦ would be a GF with this sort of shape, 4♦ in this sequence is to play.

[SoTired]

I vote for 2D. Unless we have a collosal misfit, I want to be in game.