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#21 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2008-June-23, 09:26

I'm pretty amazed that people want to GF on this. Unless you catch a fit, the trick taking potential of this hand is rather limited.

I'll start with 1. Then:

--Over 1N - I'll call this an invite and go the 2 - 2 - 3 or 3 (wheer we play).

--Over 2 - I'll make a 5-5- invite via 3. If pard bids 3N, I'm pulling to 4.

--Over 2 - I'm passing, unless I have some sort of 2N stall available.

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Posted 2008-June-23, 09:59

pclayton, on Jun 23 2008, 10:26 AM, said:

I'm pretty amazed that people want to GF on this. Unless you catch a fit, the trick taking potential of this hand is rather limited.

pfah. A 7 card suit IS a fit. You get more trump winners out of a 7-0 fit than your average 5-3 fit, and is it too much to hope that your partner has one of the little buggers? I'm not sure why all these comments about a fit. I mean, we all open at the freakin' 3 level with hands a lot less distributional than this.

I don't disagree with any of your answers here, if partner rebids hearts, well, at least it won't be a 5-0. But worrying about a 5-7 hand not having a fit seems...odd.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 15:22

This really isn't all that hard unless you like to mastermind.

1S, then over:

1N-get out in diamonds
2C- prefer to 2H (5-0 should play better than the 4-1)
2N- look for the 5-3 spade fit
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Posted 2008-June-23, 16:46

Winstonm, on Jun 23 2008, 10:22 PM, said:

This really isn't all that hard unless you like to mastermind.

1S, then over:
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2C- prefer to 2H (5-0 should play better than the 4-1)

Personally, I'd regard giving preference on a void to a once-bid suit as masterminding. Why do you choose the heart fit which is likely to be 5-0 rather than the spade fit which might be any of 5-0, 5-1, 5-2 or 5-3?
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Posted 2008-June-23, 17:02

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Why do you choose the heart fit which is likely to be 5-0 rather than the spade fit which might be any of 5-0, 5-1, 5-2 or 5-3?


Some would consider 2S as encouraging and I do not think this hand good enough for that bid.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 18:01

I bid 2D then spades. We got to 3N opposite xx KT9xxxx xx AQ. The opps were cold for 3N. Other table bid the same so push. lol.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 19:25

Fairly normal stuff. :)
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Posted 2008-June-25, 17:13

Im wondering if

1H----1S
2C----3D

Should show a splinter or a NF 47 or 5-7. Splinter like these are very rare and could be dealt with a gf 2D. The weakish 2 suiter is also rare but is a problem hand with no acceptable solution.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 20:43

benlessard, on Jun 25 2008, 06:13 PM, said:

Im wondering if

1H----1S
2C----3D

Should show a splinter or a NF 47 or 5-7. Splinter like these are very rare and could be dealt with a gf 2D. The weakish 2 suiter is also rare but is a problem hand with no acceptable solution.

I'd choose neither of the above. 5-5 GF for me.
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