[mike777]

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[jillybean]

Nice diagram!

1♣

[bluenikki]

mike777, on 2025-November-22, 17:23, said:

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1♣, sure. And if 1♥ is the response, you have an easy 2♦.

But what if the response is 1♦?

[mike777]

 bluenikki, on 2025-November-22, 19:54, said:

1♣, sure. And if 1♥ is the response, you have an easy 2♦.

But what if the response is 1♦?

So pard has no four card major and opponents are silent?? 😶

[Huibertus]

1♣, yes.

[pescetom]

 bluenikki, on 2025-November-22, 19:54, said:

But what if the response is 1♦?

We now have a solution, thanks to the Italian mixed pairs world champions: 2♥ as the cheapest reverse, which can show this and other strong hands, including the natural reverse.
It has yet to prove its worth, but will be on the card all next year at least.

[jillybean]

That is the only choice, let's hope partner goes slow.

[pescetom]

 jillybean, on 2025-November-23, 09:51, said:

That is the only choice, let's hope partner goes slow.

If you mean over my semi-artificial reverse, his bids are disciplined: hopefully 2♠ which is the positive relay, over which I bid 3♣ showing a single suiter too strong for a direct 3♣ rebid (I could instead bid 3♠ showing 3 card diamonds support, but I would rather have the dummy describe his hand here).

[akwoo]

I open 2♣ on this one - 9 tricks without question in a minor.

[jillybean]

Yes, over your semi-artificial reverse. (I'm sure you alert it)
I think it is a great method but obviously only after discussions with your partner.
How do you now describe a 6m5H hand without losing all of the bidding room?

[pescetom]

 jillybean, on 2025-November-23, 12:19, said:

Yes, over your semi-artificial reverse. (I'm sure you alert it)
I think it is a great method but obviously only after discussions with your partner.
How do you now describe a 6m5H hand without losing all of the bidding room?

Of course it is alerted and on the card.

I play mainly at MP and not at world level either, so lose little sleep about 6m5M which happens about 1 in 500 hands and even then someone else often opens... I treat it as 5M5m unless suit quality suggests otherwise. So it is not a 1m problem in general. The hand goes through our 2♣ if strong enough, otherwise 1M. The latter can be tricky with 14-16, but I hope to add Gazzilli sooner or later (some partner permitting) which will sort that out. It's not a 1m problem in general.

But rather than looking for cons, why not ask about pros?
As well as maintaining the natural reverse and being able to show the strong single suited minor, it can show a strong minor with 4 card fit in responders suit, or with 3 card fit, or an 18-19 balanced with 4 card fit in Responder's major (at 3 level, avoiding an awkward natural jump to 4M), or the same with exactly 4333 shape (allowing a choice of game). You could swap the last for 6m5M if that worries you more and you don't mind the convention being less intuitive.

[jillybean]

I didn't intend to be negative, I like it but unfortunately can't add it, or anything else, any time soon.

6m5M about 1 in 500 hands
1237 18 count, 1 in ? hands

Mike, did you hold this hand, what happened ?

[mike777]

 jillybean, on 2025-November-23, 19:48, said:

I didn't intend to be negative, I like it but unfortunately can't add it, or anything else, any time soon.

6m5M about 1 in 500 hands
1237 18 count, 1 in ? hands

Mike, did you hold this hand, what happened ?

From a cuebids practice set, slightly altered. Also from a discussion at the local club on just how strong 1C- 1S-3NT is or what it promises?

[DavidKok]

For me that sequence promises seven solid clubs.

[mw64ahw]

1♣ playing Transfer Walsh expecting
1♣ - 1♥
2N a) long strong ♣, b) GF 4♠ not BD, c) 3xx6
If I get a 3♣ response (min.) I'll revert to 3N otherwise look for the ♣ slam

otherwise
2♣ as it may be slightly easier to find the slam even if the total point count is a touch low

[jillybean]

DavidKok, on 2025-November-24, 01:36, said:

For me that sequence promises seven solid clubs.

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