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#21 User is online   pescetom 

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Posted 2024-December-28, 03:31

 kane2, on 2024-December-27, 12:54, said:

6h. show minimum hand.

Offline from here others suggested 6H too. Seems odd to me.
In what way is 6H a minimum and what would 5H and 6C be in this scheme?
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Posted 2024-December-28, 03:33

For those bidding 6C, would you do the same holding A, K or a singleton in clubs?
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Posted 2024-December-28, 04:03

View Postpescetom, on 2024-December-28, 03:33, said:

For those bidding 6C, would you do the same holding A, K or a singleton in clubs?


Ace yes, not the other holdings
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Posted 2024-December-28, 09:20

 Cyberyeti, on 2024-December-28, 04:03, said:

Ace yes, not the other holdings

I figured as much.
We would normally show any of these holdings, although there is always some discretion about a singleton and here one might have doubt about showing an unsupported King as it would be odd for partner to bid this way holding the Ace.
It's a non-issue for us on the actual hand as with both curly Aces we would bid 5NT showing even keycards, which partner can decode easily enough.
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Posted 2024-December-28, 11:30

Late in the thread and not ashamed of my bidding so far.

Partner could have bid 5C, 4NT (but they have a void so maybe not) and 5D. They picked this bid, what message does it convey?

If it is look at your D to go to 6 (or to defend / lead in case they bid 5S, it is not 100% clear to me who is bidding to make, but being red I suppose we are the ones), well, my hand is not a good surprise for partner since I am (definitely not) covering p s second suit with 3 small. It is quite possible though to discard one and maybe two on partner s C winners.

I would encourage a lot with the DK for instance. Here I will just bid 6, ok for slam. Partner has a 0652 hand with AK clubs and AQxxx D or AQ C and a more robust D suit (AQJxx or AKxxx or AQJxx). In both cases we should be ok but 7 is a long shot).
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Posted 2024-December-28, 17:06

View Postapollo1201, on 2024-December-28, 11:30, said:

Late in the thread and not ashamed of my bidding so far.

Partner could have bid 5C, 4NT (but they have a void so maybe not) and 5D. They picked this bid, what message does it convey?

If it is look at your D to go to 6 (or to defend / lead in case they bid 5S, it is not 100% clear to me who is bidding to make, but being red I suppose we are the ones), well, my hand is not a good surprise for partner since I am (definitely not) covering p s second suit with 3 small. It is quite possible though to discard one and maybe two on partner s C winners.

I would encourage a lot with the DK for instance. Here I will just bid 6, ok for slam. Partner has a 0652 hand with AK clubs and AQxxx D or AQ C and a more robust D suit (AQJxx or AKxxx or AQJxx). In both cases we should be ok but 7 is a long shot).


Thanks for this clear and non-resulting feedback, although it ony adds to my confusion about what the many "just bid 6, ok for slam" expect from partner bidding 5.
FWIW I polled this on that other site and 56% bid 6, with only 20% bidding 6 and the same number chickening out in 5.
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Posted 2024-December-28, 17:17

 pescetom, on 2024-December-28, 03:33, said:

For those bidding 6C, would you do the same holding A, K or a singleton in clubs?

That would be very poor, extremely..
Visualize my 4H bid.

Granted this auction has entered the
How much do you trust partners experience and judgement if they bid 6C?

If you are asking those questions..you have an answer.
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