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Posted Yesterday, 16:37

This spectacular board risked being forgotten at Christmas.



Your call as West, with your preferred agreements?
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Posted Yesterday, 16:39

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Posted Yesterday, 16:47

I can't see anything but 4.
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Posted Yesterday, 17:01

Options are 4H or 5H or 4C
Reject 2S
Will try 4H now and 5 clubs over 4s by opponents

5h immediately will just require pard to auto bid 6.

The most important thing is NOT to bid partners spade shortness for them.
See Justin's well known quote..
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Posted Yesterday, 18:11

4 wtp?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
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Posted Today, 06:12

Still waiting for cyberyeti to chime in with a void splinter, mikeh to write a treatise on when to bid 4 and Davidkok to deprecate all the jump bids :)

FWIW I would bid 4 comfortably here. I would be more inclined to consider 2NT if the void was in diamonds.

For those who find 4 wtp here, what would you bid if two or three of your spades became clubs?

And what was Justin's well known quote?
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Posted Today, 07:35

View Postpescetom, on 2024-December-26, 06:12, said:

Still waiting for cyberyeti to chime in with a void splinter, mikeh to write a treatise on 4 and Davidkok to deprecate all the jump bids :)

FWIW I would bid 4 comfortably here. I would be more inclined to consider 2NT if the void was in diamonds.

For those who find 4 wtp here, what would you bid if two or three of your spades became clubs?

And what was Justin's well known quote?


Hand not good enough for void splinter, happy with 4, probably 3 with 5332
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Posted Today, 08:14

View Postpescetom, on 2024-December-26, 06:12, said:


For those who find 4 wtp here, what would you bid if two or three of your spades became clubs?

4. Why give the opponents any bidding room?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
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Posted Today, 10:04

 jillybean, on 2024-December-26, 08:14, said:

4. Why give the opponents any bidding room?

Are you counting CHO? :)

I think the 5332 hand is a very different prospect from this one, from partner's perspective. Unless you have no hope of slam looking at this hand and the auction.
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Posted Today, 10:33

View Postpescetom, on 2024-December-26, 10:04, said:

Are you counting CHO? :)

I think the 5332 hand is a very different prospect from this one, from partner's perspective. Unless you have no hope of slam looking at this hand and the auction.


I only have realistic hope of slam with this hand if spades are raised.
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Posted Today, 10:43

 Cyberyeti, on 2024-December-26, 10:33, said:

I only have realistic hope of slam with this hand if spades are raised.


North will raise spades to game on the actual layout. But even if not, opener might have A and they a clubs fit to tweak LoTT.
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