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[Final] Event 20 information and score reporting #nofeed

#161 User is offline   crazy4hoop 

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Posted 2020-August-13, 20:56

Group C: povratnik 6.5
crazy4hoop 9.5

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Posted 2020-August-14, 01:40

sep123 4.5-11.5 GIB

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Posted 2020-August-14, 04:33

Group C

I finished all matches with human opponents

pilowsky 7:9 Povratnik

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I don't have the result with tim_ucin, he has yet to finish
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Posted 2020-August-14, 11:08

cherdano - shuba 7-9 https://webutil.brid...b=web&v3v=5.6.6
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Posted 2020-August-14, 16:48

Group A

mythdoc 11-5 Muddylane

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Posted 2020-August-14, 18:51

Pilowsky - Povratnik 43.75% 2/2 https://webutil.brid...b=web&v3v=5.6.6
Pilowsky - Tim_ucin 56.25% 1/2 https://webutil.brid...b=web&v3v=5.6.6
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Posted 2020-August-15, 01:18

Group C

tim_ucin 9:7 Povratnik

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Povratnik 8.5:7.5 GIB

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Posted 2020-August-15, 22:21

Round 1 has finished - while twisterrz's two remaining challenges + pilowsky's challenge against GIB were not reported, they have been completed and added. Round 2 has been added.

Cherdano is unluckily eliminated from Group A due to losing his head to head match with GIB (whose clone managed to knock me out at the last moment also).

Both GIBs therefore qualify for Round 2. If you have challenges remaining against both of them, your first challenge will be scored against GIB1, with your second challenge against GIB 2.

The deadline for round 2 is September 4, 11:59pm EST.
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Posted 2020-August-16, 02:08

Gib1 vs Gib2 final?
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Posted 2020-August-16, 02:11

View Postsmerriman, on 2020-August-15, 22:21, said:

Round 1 has finished - while twisterrz's two remaining challenges + pilowsky's challenge against GIB were not reported, they have been completed and added. Round 2 has been added.

Cherdano is unluckily eliminated from Group A due to losing his head to head match with GIB (whose clone managed to knock me out at the last moment also).

Both GIBs therefore qualify for Round 2. If you have challenges remaining against both of them, your first challenge will be scored against GIB1, with your second challenge against GIB 2.

The deadline for round 2 is September 4, 11:59pm EST.


Interesting!

Perhaps you and cherdano should have had a one-off match to ensure one of you two progress i.e. have only one GIB in Round 2. Isn't there some merit in this?
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Posted 2020-August-16, 02:13

View Postshyams, on 2020-August-16, 02:11, said:

Perhaps you and cherdano should have had a one-off match to ensure one of you two progress i.e. have only one GIB in Round 2. Isn't there some merit in this?

Are you trying to deny our robot overlords their rightful place in history?
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#172 User is offline   crazy4hoop 

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Posted 2020-August-16, 08:11

Out of curiosity, how will the GIB 1 vs. GIB 2 match be scored?
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Posted 2020-August-16, 09:37

I’m not surprised that both robots qualified, for a few reasons, but I’ll share this experience: having played relatively few challenges, and being relatively new to BBO, I played a LOT of practice boards against GIB, in an effort to discern whether aggressive bidding and/or psyching could be turned to advantage. I found that (with the exception of a few hand types) it was counterproductive to do either. For instance, GIB’s preempts tend to be very solid — much more solid than the style my partner and I play. I found that making a weaker preempt (again, with exceptions) tended to backfire because robot pard’s next bid was so unpredictable.

Non best hand format I found to be thoroughly enjoyable, though I still can’t believe the ratio of boards that led to games vs. part scores. Random distribution let’s say. I think I only had one round out of 10 where I felt that there was the expected number of part scores per round.
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Posted 2020-August-16, 14:23

Can I put money on the North robot?
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Posted 2020-August-16, 14:35

View Postcrazy4hoop, on 2020-August-16, 08:11, said:

Out of curiosity, how will the GIB 1 vs. GIB 2 match be scored?

Even if you could run it, are there any variables that would lead to anything but an 8-8 draw? From my limited understanding of the way the robots work, if you give them consistent data (bids, played cards) they should come up with the same answer for what to do next.

I may be wrong, but I would think the result has to be identical.
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Posted 2020-August-16, 14:51

Yes, it'll be a scored as an 8-8 tie. This is the second time we've had two GIBs make round 2 (happened in event 15 as well).

Non-best-hand MP is clearly GIB's best format - in Event 16, there was just one GIB among 30 entrants, who went all the way to the final before losing to icycookie.
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Posted 2020-August-16, 14:53

View Postshyams, on 2020-August-16, 02:11, said:

Interesting!

Perhaps you and cherdano should have had a one-off match to ensure one of you two progress i.e. have only one GIB in Round 2. Isn't there some merit in this?

This wouldn't be fair on the pool without GIB, or those who did well against GIB in bringing their score forward (or on poor GIB :))
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Posted 2020-August-16, 15:50

Garant_7 / Gordontd - 9:7

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Posted 2020-August-16, 20:06

Event 20. Round 2. Nige1 = 10. GIB = 6.
Event 20. Round 2. Nige1 = 7.5 GordonTD= 8.5




As West, GIB declared a frisky 5, on this deal and
executed a pretty avoidance play and trump-coup
for a well-deserved top.


Needing 4 more tricks, In this 5 card ending,
GIB crossed to A to lead a 2nd .
Rather than ruff air, South discarded,
So West won with K.
Now GIB exited with his 3rd club
to coup South's trumps :)


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Posted 2020-August-17, 01:21

gordontd - nige1
8.5 - 7.5
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