Is it differeent if opp play short club?
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Is this a cue bid? (1C)1D(P)1H(P)2C... - support in H with 10+ TP
#2
Posted 2020-July-26, 05:35
It is easiest to play this as a cue bid whether they are playing a short club or not.
Given that your partner has overcalled in diamonds, responder has not been able to bid a major, and you have bid hearts, it is more likely that the club is not short in this case.
Given that your partner has overcalled in diamonds, responder has not been able to bid a major, and you have bid hearts, it is more likely that the club is not short in this case.
#3
Posted 2020-July-28, 03:24
I agree with Paul about not playing this 2♣ bis as natural but disagree with OP about it guaranteeing heart support.
(-: Zel :-)
#4
Posted 2020-August-08, 09:54
paulg, on 2020-July-26, 05:35, said:
It is easiest to play this as a cue bid whether they are playing a short club or not.
Given that your partner has overcalled in diamonds, responder has not been able to bid a major, and you have bid hearts, it is more likely that the club is not short in this case.
Given that your partner has overcalled in diamonds, responder has not been able to bid a major, and you have bid hearts, it is more likely that the club is not short in this case.
I don't think that there is evidence that the 1♣ bid is unlikely to be short. Why can't opener be 4-3 in our suits? And noone bidding spades makes it more likely that opener has four of them.
That said I would not play 2♣ as natural here.
#5
Posted 2020-August-08, 13:15
Sir,
The text books do not clearly have anything in them.1♦is just a simple overcall and now it appears suddenly excited with your 1♥response.This indeed sounds queer unless the partnership has specific understandings.Responder has not bid ♠.Who has what?.Was responder waiting for a reopening double by opener with 4 spades.Some partnerships for reasons best known to them treat a 1♣-1♦-1♠ as showing a five card suit.But would he use the negative double with a 4243 and a miserly 6/7 HCP.Very difficult to decipher this 2♣bid.It can't be taken to be a cue bid, unless agreed to earlier.Personally,think it as just a one round forcing bid to keep the level low.I am just wondering what should he bid with. xxx-Kx-AKJxx-Axx. Please ,I am not in any way suggesting that this hand may bid 2♣.
The text books do not clearly have anything in them.1♦is just a simple overcall and now it appears suddenly excited with your 1♥response.This indeed sounds queer unless the partnership has specific understandings.Responder has not bid ♠.Who has what?.Was responder waiting for a reopening double by opener with 4 spades.Some partnerships for reasons best known to them treat a 1♣-1♦-1♠ as showing a five card suit.But would he use the negative double with a 4243 and a miserly 6/7 HCP.Very difficult to decipher this 2♣bid.It can't be taken to be a cue bid, unless agreed to earlier.Personally,think it as just a one round forcing bid to keep the level low.I am just wondering what should he bid with. xxx-Kx-AKJxx-Axx. Please ,I am not in any way suggesting that this hand may bid 2♣.
#6
Posted 2020-August-09, 05:49
msjennifer, on 2020-August-08, 13:15, said:
Sir,
The text books do not clearly have anything in them.1♦is just a simple overcall and now it appears suddenly excited with your 1♥response.This indeed sounds queer unless the partnership has specific understandings.
The text books do not clearly have anything in them.1♦is just a simple overcall and now it appears suddenly excited with your 1♥response.This indeed sounds queer unless the partnership has specific understandings.
Maybe it is as simple as the 1♥ advance being constructive + forcing and the Overcaller having a maximum 1♦ bid?
(-: Zel :-)
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