Confusion about split server Where have all my old friends gone - long time passing
#21
Posted 2020-May-14, 11:26
I want to add that I am on a new Chromebook and I cannot get to the "slider-bar" on the "People Tab" to go down my page and see who is online besides the 15 or so shown at the top.
A VERY SKINNY slider bar momentarily appears, but when I try to capture it with my mouse-pointer, no luck and then it disappers.
I have used both the +/- font size button in keyboard controls, and the horizontal widener/narrower function, but neither works.
Any insight, anyone? If this doesn't go to @diana_eva, to who and where of IT Druid Central at BBO should I send it?
#22
Posted 2020-May-14, 11:31
ISIRTA, on 2020-May-14, 07:35, said:
If you can ask everybody to go to casual server, they will get invited. Or is this not possible. I can't see how a new ID will help any.
#23
Posted 2020-May-14, 11:31
When you first log on (or at any time) go to bottom right of the 'People' tab and check the SHOW OFFLINE button to ON, make it orange.
Now you will see all your contacts, in alphabetically order, those off line will be marked with red buttons, those online with green, those online and playing with yellow.
You can send a message to any of your contacts now, regardless of where they or you are.
#24
Posted 2020-May-14, 11:34
norm5733, on 2020-May-14, 05:27, said:
Could you ask your friends to also log on to the old version? That would solve the problem for you.
I also believe the Flash version will be retired soon - so you may have to look into new hardware.
#25
Posted 2020-May-14, 12:32
MRTRUB44, on 2020-May-14, 04:10, said:
"Bridge Base Online Home"
When I login (through windows) I get a bridgebase.com/v3/ displayed as the address - I hope that does not mean I am back on version 3.
This is standard good programming practice, and has been for decades. Also, it is very easy to do.
I would add that one should be able to discover the version under 'Help'/'About...' in both the web client and the app.
This too is standard good programming practice and has been for decades and is very easy to do .
#26
Posted 2020-May-14, 13:49
westwind3, on 2020-May-14, 03:06, said:
This server "switch" only happens on the HTML version (5.6). All'newbies' are automatically on this version
Most 'oldies', say members for over a year, are on the Flash Version ( which, rightly so, will be retired at end of 2020 ) , or even the Windows version.
So, if a "newbie" logs in and decides to maybe play in the Relaxed Club ( or the Main club) , then they are switched to the Casual server. So now they cannot see their 'oldie' , experienced BBO members, and the endless confusion begins.
The 'oldies' are still on the Flash version. And of course they don't have a clue what is the difference between HTML5 and Flash, and of course they don't know if they are on version 4.x or 5.x ( BBO is the only software in the world that does not tell you what version number you are using ) .
Hence more confusion , 'oldie' tells 'newbie' friend you are not logged on , no I am , yes , you are not !! Brilliant.
The Main Bridge Club has been the " heart & soul " of BBO for the 15 years that I have been a member. You log in , see what friends are on-line, some maybe are kibbing a team match, invite a table. Now if you start a table, you can end up having to make a mobile call to ask them to switch.
And if they are on Flash version, well , they cannot move to the Casual server anyhow !! , totally bizarre !!
So now exit your table and ask them to set up a table , or make another mobile call !!
For now, the 'oldies' do not seem to be screaming at this crazy change, but that is because they are mostly still on the Flash version.
So if they start a table , they can see all their friends , many of whom might be e.g. kibbing a JEC match, ( except 1 or 2 who might be on 5.6 on the casual server ), and invite as before.
Everything looks fine

BBO , we do understand that servers need to be upgraded , but this is NOT THE WAY TO DO IT . Invest in hardware, test and prepare, and THEN do a clean switch over with minimal down-time
Stay safe all !!
#27
Posted 2020-May-14, 19:08
#28
Posted 2020-May-14, 19:13
I think I will be going back to the old Flash Player BBO site until this gets straightened out. At least there I can see all my friends all of the time.
#29
Posted 2020-May-14, 19:21
My hope is that they will eventually integrate the two servers in such a way that friends can see and chat with each other independent of which area they may be in.
As difficult as it may be, consider the alternative!

#30
Posted 2020-May-14, 19:34
Georooney, on 2020-May-14, 19:21, said:
From what I have read, there is no doubt BBO is working to do just that. This confusion can't be good for them either. Already they have released new versions for mobile devices, so give them a bit of time.
#31
Posted 2020-May-14, 23:31
Just a suggestion to BBO admins

It could be very profitable to consider a migration to a Cloud solution for the BBO application with principal advantages :
- no more adware investment nor management. Just focus on the application
- improved availability
- improved elasticity
- auto-scaling and load-balancing facilities
- pay only what you you use
Consider for example AWS solutions
Best Regards
#32
Posted 2020-May-15, 00:50
chmtc, on 2020-May-14, 23:31, said:
Just a suggestion to BBO admins

It could be very profitable to consider a migration to a Cloud solution for the BBO application with principal advantages :
- no more adware investment nor management. Just focus on the application
- improved availability
- improved elasticity
- auto-scaling and load-balancing facilities
- pay only what you you use
Consider for example AWS solutions
Best Regards
If scaling BBO was purely down to the provision of hardware infrastructure then this would appear attractive.
Unfortunately, as has been explained in many places, it is not.
Pushing cloud marketing is not helpful.
#33
Posted 2020-May-15, 00:58
arrow, on 2020-May-14, 11:31, said:
When you first log on (or at any time) go to bottom right of the 'People' tab and check the SHOW OFFLINE button to ON, make it orange.
Now you will see all your contacts, in alphabetically order, those off line will be marked with red buttons, those online with green, those online and playing with yellow.
You can send a message to any of your contacts now, regardless of where they or you are.
Tried it! Like it (almost).
I would be alot happier with the split server situation if I could see this list but without the actual "offline" entries. Perhaps time has caused by "following" list to bloat somewhat, so the inclusion of actual offline entries means I must scroll a lot to scan it all (I remember the older windows version that would display everybody in a list that was so huge that it might as well have shown nobody).
#34
Posted 2020-May-15, 03:09
The Main Club IS competitive, it always has been,you will see "real" not "BBO" WORLD-CLASS players there.
And yet we have Solitaire and BridgeMaster and Bidding Practise in the Competitive section ,bizarre !!
#35
Posted 2020-May-15, 08:21
#37
Posted 2020-May-15, 14:44
zander1124, on 2020-May-15, 14:42, said:
If you use the url www.bridgebase.com to connect to BBO, you're using the latest release
if you use something like https://www.bridgeba...p?cb=5UditqEZw6 then you're using the Flash version
#38
Posted 2020-May-15, 16:01
#39
Posted 2020-May-15, 16:04
#40
Posted 2020-May-15, 17:31