GIB bids insane 6NT
#1
Posted 2018-January-04, 20:18
Color me confused.
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#3
Posted 2018-January-04, 22:29
#4
Posted 2018-January-05, 08:27
The reason 6N is insane is there has to be a good chance that 7 of something makes and will be a guess after 6N. Opener also can easily have 5+♦ and you should be in 6/7♦.
On BBO i had the following auction with a self-proclaimed expert where I opened a normal 22 point 2♣:
2♣-2♦-2♠-6N
we missed our heart fit but 7N makes with no finesses and no need for a suit to break.
6N is just "insane"
I have to compliment Gib for leading 4th card of it's best suit. This is rare and the only lead to beat 6N!
If only you can get Gib to lead my suit against 3N when i have overcalled.
#6
Posted 2018-January-05, 11:18
jammen, on 2018-January-05, 11:10, said:
Yes and that is "insane" but nobody at BBO will admit it.
#7
Posted 2018-January-05, 15:25
#8
Posted 2018-January-05, 16:51
jdonn, on 2018-January-05, 15:25, said:
Premature is an understatement.
It isn't Gib job to make a decision if it was programmed properly.
The 2♣ opener is the one who should be making the decision unless stuck at some point.
Almost all bids are forcing so guessing at this point isn't bridge it's euchre.
#9
Posted 2018-January-05, 22:33
steve2005, on 2018-January-05, 16:51, said:
It isn't Gib job to make a decision if it was programmed properly.
The 2♣ opener is the one who should be making the decision unless stuck at some point.
Almost all bids are forcing so guessing at this point isn't bridge it's euchre.
I commend GIB for not passing 2♠ when it didn't know what to do since that's what happens in a number of other situations.
#10
Posted 2018-January-09, 17:20
#11
Posted 2018-January-10, 09:19
svengolly, on 2018-January-04, 20:18, said:
Color me confused.
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2C sucks if worried about 1s-p-p-p open 4S what the heck. w/o running simulations i think 1s-all pass will be a low percentage.
vrock
#12
Posted 2018-January-14, 21:38
One is that 3♣ at North's second turn would be "cheapest minor" and hence show a weak hand. 4♣ would maybe be a splinter? The problem may be that North has no way of showing clubs here.
Another issue is that GIB often just blasts slam very early after a 2♣ opening. I am not sure why. Maybe there are just no bids (other than 3♣) which are defined at all so it always defaults to guessing the final contract.
That said, there's no way you can avoid slam when you open such a hand 2♣. I don't think it can ever win. If partner has nothing, you will be playing a hopeless 4♠. If partner has something, you will be playing a hopeless slam.
You can agree with a human partner to open such hands 2♣, but playing with GIB you have to play the GIB system.
#13
Posted 2018-January-15, 20:04
Anyway, I had sent Georgi an IM about this and his reply was "Agree. GIB should bid more slowly. We will work to fix this."
#14
Posted 2018-January-15, 23:46
helene_t, on 2018-January-14, 21:38, said:
2H is a positive response by GIB with 5+ hearts. 3C would not be a 2nd negative after 2H. It would be a 2nd suit in any system and probably denies support for S.
#15
Posted 2018-January-16, 01:33
svengolly, on 2018-January-15, 23:46, said:
Oh yes of course, you are right.