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Posted 2017-March-14, 22:15



Butler IMPs. 1 table of 9 reached 6♥.

That was against us because I passed as East.
What do you think of that?
This allowed South to open 2♥. North applied Blackwood over 3♦. 1430

At other tables, East usually opened 3♠, passed around to North, who usually bid 3NT.
South either passed this, or transferred to 4♥ and played there.

Would you have done better as N-S?
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Posted 2017-March-15, 02:13

View Postshevek, on 2017-March-14, 22:15, said:


Would you have done better as N-S?


I wouldn't after 3♠ preempt.
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Posted 2017-March-15, 02:28

At that vul, I might conceivably have opened 2♠ although I'm never passing, I'm not sure it's totally easy over that, and extremely difficult over 3♠.
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Posted 2017-March-15, 02:39

Hi,

not opening 3S is ok,..., but what speaks against 2S?

After 2S it is still quite hard, North should always
worry about a spade ruff, I did not do this on the weekend,
and went down, so the wiser course is, that he should not
press very hard.

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Posted 2017-March-15, 04:33

View PostP_Marlowe, on 2017-March-15, 02:39, said:

Hi,

not opening 3S is ok,..., but what speaks against 2S?

After 2S it is still quite hard, North should always
worry about a spade ruff, I did not do this on the weekend,
and went down, so the wiser course is, that he should not
press very hard.

With kind regards
Marlowe


Thanks for that.
Way in the past I learned that a vulnerable 2♥/♠ with seven was acceptable only with 7222 and soft values.
Something like

KQTxxxx ♥Qx ♦xx ♣xx

I may have to adjust that thinking.
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Posted 2017-March-15, 05:59

View Postshevek, on 2017-March-15, 04:33, said:

Thanks for that.
Way in the past I learned that a vulnerable 2♥/♠ with seven was acceptable only with 7222 and soft values.
Something like

KQTxxxx ♥Qx ♦xx ♣xx

I may have to adjust that thinking.


I think that that argument is useful for deciding whether to open 2♠ or 3♠, not whether to open at or pass.
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Posted 2017-March-15, 08:37

View Postshevek, on 2017-March-14, 22:15, said:

At other tables, East usually opened 3♠, passed around to North, who usually bid 3NT.
South either passed this, or transferred to 4♥ and played there.

If playing transfers over 3NT (good methods), North might consider breaking the transfer to hearts. Mind you, would 4NT be RKCB or a singleton heart and source of tricks in a minor?
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Posted 2017-March-16, 15:51

Stuff happens sometime.

I'd have no problem passing this hand in 1st chair rather than bidding 3 ♠ vulnerable on an 8 loser hand.

They had the perfect hands to make 6 ♥. Those don't happen very often. You're probably more likely to go for -500 or -800 than have the hands where 6 ♥ rolls.
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