[msjennifer]

Wanks hand does not deserve a 5H bid at all!If no agreement about dealing with such situations has been done earlier it is worth only abid of 4H and nothing more.It's a five loser hand and 2S over callers hand is completely unknown.It has not promised anything except a good spade suit and an Ace outside perhaps.Keeping this in mind there is nothing to get excited about in this hand .As a 2S overcaller,I will note a thing or two. Such a bid asks overcaller to bid six holding a top honor in Heart is one way and the other is to bid six with aces of D and S.
Since there is much darkness surrounding partners expectations I shall PASS to be on a safe side.

[Jinksy]

I would not have bid 5♥ on that hand, but Wank is a much better player than me - and come to that, than you.

[forgo]

I bid 6 hearts! !!p must be asking about hearts!!?? I have queen

[wanoff]

5♥ is a limit bid.
I got this wrong as well but we were short changed by dummy. As others have said, partner could be void or what would he do with xx AKJ10xxx Axx x ?

[Fluffy]

I can't think of any other hand that bids 5♥ and goes down in 6♥. I would had bet for club void everyday of the week.

[benlessard]

Here is how i see it.

How many losers do we expect for 5H ?

a 2S red overcall on a bad day is going to be one cover card.

KQxxxx
x
Qxxx
Kx

it may be worse than this with a 7th spades.

Most of the times its going to be 2 cover cards but it still going to be 3+ a fair amount of times.

I think that 5H is 4 losers, 3 losers is not only super rare but we will all force to slam with this. With 5 i would just signoff hoping that if overcall got 4 cover he will make an extra move. Im confident that 90+% of the players will agree that 5H is 4 losers.


Obviously the 5H bidder should be convinced that the cases where overcaller got 3 cover cards outweight the cases of 1 cover card.
But he should also think about cases where overcaller got 2 covers but something bad happen like a S ruff or a Qxx in H.
The most important one he should think about cases where his partner is going to think that hes got 3 cover but got only 2.

2920,1930,2821, etc these are all cases where the K of !D is going to be a cover. So its normal that the !DK will be misevaluated.
There is also cases where hes got only 8H but a minor ace with those case the !H Q will be seen as half a cover.

Axxxxx
Qx
AQx
xx

i would really think my hand got 3 covers and raise to 6H.


Here I think that the trap is that advancer hand make the QH and the K of !D not being cover cards. So i guess cases where overcaller will get it wrong are high enough to make 5H a slight underdog proposition.

[benlessard]

I agree wiht Fluffy, I think 6H is normal with overcaller hand.

2920,1930,0841(!DA) etc are all cases where we overcaller got 3 covers.