[case_no_6]

Caitlynne, on 2015-October-09, 08:00, said:

The 2S raise was inadvisable since it promises 3 card support and there is nothing about the hand pattern or the nature of the 2 card spade tolerance that is noteworthy or suggestive that the partnership truly belongs in spades. A negative/card showing Double or Pass would be fine.

I prefer the Double because, if your and LHO both Pass and partner reopens with a Double, 3C does not do justice to the hand (unless you play Good/Bad 2NT here) and either 2NT or 4C seem speculative.

Regardless, 4S clearly was an overbid. A game try is reasonable and, to that end, a natural 2NT seems about right.

I largely agree with Caitlynne's comments here. However, I think that Pass, not Double, is right with the West hand. If East reopens with a Double, the standard bid is/should be 2NT showing this hand with clubs. That's because a negative Dbl risks 3D from opener and then West would be stuck. Switch West's clubs and diamonds, however, and a negative Dbl is best because now West can correct East's bid of 3C with 3D.

Of course, I have to wonder why East did not open 1NT. Perhaps, however, that is avoided with a small doubleton?

[blackshoe]

1NT-3♣ (Puppet)-3♠-3NT-P.

Others are right, though. You need Bergen to be off after an overcall.

[Jinksy]

I would have taken passing and then bidding a new suit at the three level as a fit non-jump.

[Corral_2]

Corral_2, on 2015-October-08, 20:19, said:

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ALL VUL

E/W play NT 15-17, and also play puppet over 1 & 2 NT, so often open NT with 5 card major, and play Bergen raises by passed hand and over overcalls so 3 clubs was not an option. Result 4S-2. Was 2s wrong? Should pd expect 3 card support? Was 4S called for?

Further down in this discussion I caused things to get convoluted by typing something that was the opposite of what I meant,

We play Bergen by passed hand, and over doubles but NOT over interference. Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa.

[danmathies]

east 100 percent- when u bit like a little girl these things happen. be a man and open 1nt

[monikrazy]

At least 80% West

Even with the understanding that partnership should open 5CM, this hand can be evaluated as slightly better than 17 points and too good for a 1N open (especially given the vul)


West has the values for a negative double, and will be in a much better position to judge how the contract should continue after partner's next bid. East has other better choices tha jumping to game but its not as egregious an error.