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#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2015-May-16, 05:51



I failed in this hand,no problem,Gib still is a good player,after all.
Look at the explanations of both 3♣ and 4♣.
3♣ says " 5+♣,21-hcp,16-22TPs".
4♣ says " 4-♦,3-♥,21-hcp,twice rebiddable ♣,18-22TPs".

Now let's understand Gib better together,The blame is useless.


1-Should my 3♣ be a playable bidding?
If you think my 3♣ is incorrectly,what's your option?
I think almost of 3♣ should be 6-card long suit,5-card suit is rare.If really 5-card ♣,after Gib N cuebid 2♣,I would make double.

2- Should rebid-3♣ show 16+TPs at least?
3- 3♦ is no problem,but its explanations is worth discussing, should it be forcing a round?

In a word, the root causes of the error come from the explanations of 3♣,right?
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Posted 2015-May-16, 08:19

View Postlycier, on 2015-May-16, 05:51, said:


In a word, the root causes of the error come from the explanations of 3♣,right?


The root cause of the problem is that GIB thinks that 3♣ shows a much stronger hand than you have.

Your hand should either preempt 3♣ or, if you prefer to open 1♣, pass on the second round of bidding
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Posted 2015-May-16, 10:25

View Posthrothgar, on 2015-May-16, 08:19, said:

The root cause of the problem is that GIB thinks that 3♣ shows a much stronger hand than you have.

Yes GIB thinks that, and for once it explains what it is really thinking. Question is, SHOULD GIB think that? I think that the answer to that would have been yes, if partner had been silent. But the responsive X shows willingness to compete. If you are willing to compete but purely because of shape, confident that partner has some values to double, should you be forced to sell out to 2S?

I think in the real world you have some sort of Good-bad 2N convention available, but I don't suggest introducing that to GIB.

Just a thought, and I don't feel strongly.
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Posted 2015-May-16, 11:27

View Posthrothgar, on 2015-May-16, 08:19, said:

The root cause of the problem is that GIB thinks that 3♣ shows a much stronger hand than you have.

Your hand should either preempt 3♣ or, if you prefer to open 1♣, pass on the second round of bidding

Wouldn't doubling 2♣, rather than passing, say "my clubs are real, but I'm not strong enough to bid 3♣"?
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