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What is West's double?
Take out,penalty or something else?
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Posted 2014-November-01, 07:27
What is West's double?
Take out,penalty or something else?
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Posted 2014-November-01, 08:17
He does not have a max, or he would have redoubled previous round. If he had a penalty double for clubs and holding 3-4 spades, he could have redoubled.(but I am not quite sure about that)
He has at least 3 spades or they would have bid it already.
He could have bid 2♦ if he wanted a choice between red suits.
We should not be seeking game after we already passed 1♥ and lack of redouble previous round.
I have no idea what all of this sums up to. I think this is one of those DSIP doubles. So I will bid 2♦ for the insurance. He heard my pass over 1♥ he can always correct it. Our spade fit can not be any better than heart fit. And if he really meant penalty, I will say that I am sorry.
He has at least 3 spades or they would have bid it already.
He could have bid 2♦ if he wanted a choice between red suits.
We should not be seeking game after we already passed 1♥ and lack of redouble previous round.
I have no idea what all of this sums up to. I think this is one of those DSIP doubles. So I will bid 2♦ for the insurance. He heard my pass over 1♥ he can always correct it. Our spade fit can not be any better than heart fit. And if he really meant penalty, I will say that I am sorry.
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Posted 2014-November-01, 09:34
How many diamonds did you promise? I think that partner wants to compete further, but doesn't know the best strain, with eg 5♥ and 3♦.
So takeout.
So takeout.
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Posted 2014-November-01, 10:22
I would not be at all surprised to find p with 4 clubs and
some good spots and that they were trying for a penalty. Our
hand is not only minimum but sub minimal when it comes to
defense though I really like the club Q in this auction it
does not make up for my lack of tricks elsewhere. P hand
might look like Kxx xxxx Qx KT9x.
2d
mainly because I wish to give p another spot to play and warn them
about the lack of defense on my part. With 4 hearts I would simply
bid 2h.
The only other interpretation of x would be if responder was
something like 4441 and wanted to bring a 44 spade fit into the
picture if competing further. This interpretation makes little
sense since its perfection depends on the opps making a balancing
x and that in and of itself is such a small target as to make it
not worthwhile especially since we would lose the penalty application
of x. The delayed x helps opener make better decisions since responder
did not xx to show a hand near max.
some good spots and that they were trying for a penalty. Our
hand is not only minimum but sub minimal when it comes to
defense though I really like the club Q in this auction it
does not make up for my lack of tricks elsewhere. P hand
might look like Kxx xxxx Qx KT9x.
2d
mainly because I wish to give p another spot to play and warn them
about the lack of defense on my part. With 4 hearts I would simply
bid 2h.
The only other interpretation of x would be if responder was
something like 4441 and wanted to bring a 44 spade fit into the
picture if competing further. This interpretation makes little
sense since its perfection depends on the opps making a balancing
x and that in and of itself is such a small target as to make it
not worthwhile especially since we would lose the penalty application
of x. The delayed x helps opener make better decisions since responder
did not xx to show a hand near max.
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Posted 2014-November-02, 16:46
looks like one of those "do something clever" dbls
certainly not penalty.. pard can hardly have one when he's passed and you're weakish
certainly not penalty.. pard can hardly have one when he's passed and you're weakish
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Posted 2014-November-02, 18:28
Vampyr, on 2014-November-01, 09:34, said:
How many diamonds did you promise? I think that partner wants to compete further, but doesn't know the best strain, with eg 5♥ and 3♦.
So takeout.
So takeout.
Pd can not have 5♥
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2014-November-05, 00:54
4=4=3=2
Ought not be DISP/Cooperative as partner is a passed hand and you opened in third seat.
Bid 2♦.
Ought not be DISP/Cooperative as partner is a passed hand and you opened in third seat.
Bid 2♦.
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