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#1 User is offline   Alibar10 

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Posted 2014-September-18, 09:19

My partner was a player with advanced ranking. Ops opened the bidding and my partner bid 1nt. I had 10 high card points so I bid 2nt. Partner bid 3nt. He had no profile. Turns out he had eleven high card points and went down several tricks and booted me from the table. I'm not objecting to the boot, but I think he was way off to overcall 1nt unless he held at least 15 pts. I've noticed the players who rank themselves advanced or higher are the ones more likely to lack sportsmanship. I realize there are many exceptions. :)
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Posted 2014-September-18, 11:01

View PostAlibar10, on 2014-September-18, 09:19, said:

My partner was a player with advanced ranking. Ops opened the bidding and my partner bid 1nt. I had 10 high card points so I bid 2nt. Partner bid 3nt. He had no profile. Turns out he had eleven high card points and went down several tricks and booted me from the table. I'm not objecting to the boot, but I think he was way off to overcall 1nt unless he held at least 15 pts. I've noticed the players who rank themselves advanced or higher are the ones more likely to lack sportsmanship. I realize there are many exceptions. :)

There are plenty of players who will do stupid things, then boot their partner. It has happened to me. I just mark them as enemy and sit elsewhere.
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Posted 2014-September-18, 11:12

If my partner overcalled a natural 1NT and I had a 10 count, I would not invite - I would force to game.

You invited game and he accepted with his 11 count? That is impressive.

Don't assume that all players who self-rate as Advanced or higher are poor sports. But there certainly are enough of them.
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Posted 2014-September-18, 13:00

Maybe he thought you opened the bidding. Or maybe he's a jerk. Or maybe both.
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Posted 2014-September-18, 14:39

View PostArtK78, on 2014-September-18, 11:12, said:

If my partner overcalled a natural 1NT and I had a 10 count, I would not invite - I would force to game.

You invited game and he accepted with his 11 count? That is impressive.

Don't assume that all players who self-rate as Advanced or higher are poor sports. But there certainly are enough of them.


I didn't assume all players did. I only know it about some, but thanks.
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Posted 2014-September-18, 14:40

Thanks all for the responses. I appreciate.
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Posted 2014-September-18, 14:51

maybe you left out a minor important detail from the story... Partner was a passed hand, so his 1N cannot show 15+ points.

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Posted 2014-September-18, 15:47

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-September-18, 14:51, said:

maybe you left out a minor important detail from the story... Partner was a passed hand, so his 1N cannot show 15+ points.


oh....what a trivial detail :D [/sarcasm]
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Posted 2014-September-18, 15:56

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-September-18, 14:51, said:

maybe you left out a minor important detail from the story... Partner was a passed hand, so his 1N cannot show 15+ points.


Although to be fair, North was also a passed hand. So he can't have an invitational hand either.
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Posted 2014-September-18, 16:53

View PostAlibar10, on 2014-September-18, 09:19, said:

My partner was a player with advanced ranking. Ops opened the bidding and my partner bid 1nt. I had 10 high card points so I bid 2nt. Partner bid 3nt. He had no profile. Turns out he had eleven high card points and went down several tricks and booted me from the table. I'm not objecting to the boot, but I think he was way off to overcall 1nt unless he held at least 15 pts. I've noticed the players who rank themselves advanced or higher are the ones more likely to lack sportsmanship. I realize there are many exceptions. :)
It was his mistake, not yours. The best move is not to play with these type of players.
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Posted 2014-September-18, 16:55

View PostEricK, on 2014-September-18, 15:56, said:

Although to be fair, North was also a passed hand. So he can't have an invitational hand either.
Why didn´t East open with 1NT? We will never know.
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Posted 2014-September-18, 17:56

Declarer showed his true class by rising with the spade king at trick 1.
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Posted 2014-September-18, 20:06

View Postthemule, on 2014-September-18, 16:55, said:

Why didn´t East open with 1NT? We will never know.

Sure we know... this was in the MBC and East's profile very clearly says "strong nt 16/18".
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Posted 2014-September-19, 07:35

Both of you being passed hands means that you have an automatic pass over 1NT, and there is no possible hand you can have than can invite game, so he should pass 2NT.
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Posted 2014-September-19, 07:52

Anyone likes the natural 1NT bid with the passed hand?
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Posted 2014-September-19, 07:56

I much prefer raptor as a passed hand, but that is alien territory for most club level players.
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Posted 2014-September-19, 09:23

I think that 1NT, 2NT, and 3NT are all bad bids.
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Posted 2014-September-19, 09:45

View Postkgr, on 2014-September-19, 07:52, said:

Anyone likes the natural 1NT bid with the passed hand?

Depending on how things have been going, I do... One of my favorite auctions, at a Las Vegas NABC many years ago, with first-time partner:
P-(1)-P-(1)
P-(1)-P-(1)
1N
RHO asks me what pard's 1N means. "He wants to play 1N." "But what does he have?" "I neither know nor care; he wants to play 1N." Many matchpoints for +90.
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Posted 2014-September-20, 01:52

If partner was indeed a passed hand then I would have passed knowing fully well that he was upto some monkey tricks or that he was 'balancing'.
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Posted 2014-September-20, 02:00

With due apologies,I wish to forward a new definition given by my friend partner."Some of the persons who label themselves as experts are persons who know everything of nothing.And some who label themselves as World Class have "cl" silent in that label.
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