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Opening Bid 1C or 2N

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Posted 2013-November-03, 05:26

View Postthe hog, on 2013-November-02, 20:00, said:

Helene, how can "both be fine?". If 2NT is fine, it should exclude opening this hand with 1C and vice versa.

I think that you fail to acknowledge that the relative merits of alternative calls vary only by degree, measured by the integral of the product of possible outcomes and their likelihoods. It is entirely possible that two calls competing for top slot might vary only minutely in that measurement, in which case both might be judged "fine".
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Posted 2013-November-03, 05:26

View Postthe hog, on 2013-November-02, 20:00, said:

Helene, how can "both be fine?". If 2NT is fine, it should exclude opening this hand with 1C and vice versa.


There are hands that fall into a grey area, this is one, very few people have definitively discussed just how the distribution of honours needs to be to change this from 1♣ to 2N, tends to occur with 2236/2245 or similar and also may vary with system, if your club opener actually shows clubs, you may prefer that more often.
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Posted 2013-November-03, 09:26

How about fine and more fine?
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Posted 2013-November-03, 17:51

View Postaguahombre, on 2013-November-03, 09:26, said:

How about fine and more fine?


Exactly. Fine for me means the correct bid. You cannot have two bids that are equally correct or your system is too fluid.
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Posted 2013-November-03, 22:31

View PostStevenG, on 2013-October-31, 12:57, said:

The more I read this thread, the more I think that 2NT might be better at IMPs, and 1♣ at MPs.

If anything, I'd think it would be the opposite. Opening 2N is more likely to lead to 3N (which is more likely to be better in MPs) whereas 1♣ is more likely to lead to 5♣ (which is more likely to be better in IMPs).

Regardless of the above sentence, if 2N is balanced 21-22HCP, that's what I'd open.
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