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Posted 2013-August-14, 03:55
IMO pass = 10 ; 3♦ = 9 ; 3♣ = 8 ; Dbl = 7 ; 2NT = 6
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Posted 2013-August-14, 04:50
Free, on 2013-August-14, 03:55, said:
IMO pass = 10 ; 3♦ = 9 ; 3♣ = 8 ; Dbl = 7 ; 2NT = 6
Err isn't 2N 15-17 bal or similar for most people by an unpassed hand.
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Posted 2013-August-14, 05:52
I can't drum up too much enthusiasm to bid here and double seems designed to give us a negative score. And if I had to bid a minor then I really prefer clubs since partner will often double with the red suits, but our chances of going for -200 just seem so high when I cannot show both sensibly..
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Posted 2013-August-14, 08:02
Cyberyeti, on 2013-August-14, 04:50, said:
Err isn't 2N 15-17 bal or similar for most people by an unpassed hand.
Yes it is. But, I want it to mean what I want it to mean when I have this hand
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Posted 2013-August-14, 10:07
Free, on 2013-August-14, 03:55, said:
IMO pass = 10 ; 3♦ = 9 ; 3♣ = 8 ; Dbl = 7 ; 2NT = 6
Cyberyeti, on 2013-August-14, 04:50, said:
Err isn't 2N 15-17 bal or similar for most people by an unpassed hand.
aguahombre, on 2013-August-14, 08:02, said:
Yes it is. But, I want it to mean what I want it to mean when I have this hand
Because we're in the passout seat, maybe 2NT would be better off being a 2-suited hand rather than 15-17 balanced with Spade stoppers. Not saying that it is the optimal way to play it, but it would be nice to have someone do some simulations to find out.
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Posted 2013-August-14, 11:54
A sim for something like that would be very difficult to use. Frequency of occurence is only part of the issue. We would have to factor in the additional burden the balancing double would be taking on, and the ability to survive it.
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Posted 2013-August-14, 12:40
chasetb, on 2013-August-14, 10:07, said:
Because we're in the passout seat, maybe 2NT would be better off being a 2-suited hand rather than 15-17 balanced with Spade stoppers. Not saying that it is the optimal way to play it, but it would be nice to have someone do some simulations to find out.
Oh dear, I really started something with my ironic post
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Posted 2013-August-14, 20:07
I passed this one without even thinking about it.
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Posted 2013-August-18, 17:10
Free, on 2013-August-14, 12:40, said:
Oh dear, I really started something with my ironic post
I guess most people didn't realise that 6 points is very low on the nige1 scale.
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Posted 2013-August-20, 06:31
At first look the yes or no vote confused me. Yes I want to protect my side, pass hits the mark for me in that area.
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