[deep]

5°Major diamond 4°

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What can better bid South ? He is interfering then is possible 3nt OR 3 ♠gambling? OR better another bid?
Ty at all help me

[Fluffy]

sigh, could you post twice on the right forum at least?

[Lord Molyb]

3nt obviously.

[hrothgar]

deep, on 2013-April-27, 08:25, said:

5°Major diamond 4°

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What can better bid South ? He is interfering then is possible 3nt OR 3 ♠gambling? OR better another bid?
Ty at all help me

Frustrating hand.

Partner needs a red Ace for me to make 5♣
If he has said Ace, I expect to make six.

None-the-less, I am going to bid a prosaic 5♣

[cloa513]

deep, on 2013-April-27, 08:25, said:

5°Major diamond 4°

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What can better bid South ? He is interfering then is possible 3nt OR 3 ♠gambling? OR better another bid?
Ty at all help me

Nothing to be lost by doubling then bidding 5♣- opponents will get in at the fourth level at most in interference. You bid 5♣- it might push out a 5♠ which you can't tell if it will even go down.

[ggwhiz]

4nt for a straight aces response. Pard plays 5♣ or I play more of them. If lho bids over this my pard doubles to show zero, I'll pass and cross my fingers.

If it goes double - redouble by pard shows zero and I'll bid 5♣.

[hrothgar]

ggwhiz, on 2013-April-27, 09:48, said:

4nt for a straight aces response. Pard plays 5♣ or I play more of them. If lho bids over this my pard doubles to show zero, I'll pass and cross my fingers.

If it goes double - redouble by pard shows zero and I'll bid 5♣.

Certainly a great hand for this agreement...

[Free]

Dbl planning to show an extremely good hand with long ♣. Why settle for 3NT when you can have slam if partner only has 1 Ace?

[deep]

Fluffy, on 2013-April-27, 08:34, said:

sigh, could you post twice on the right forum at least?

sorry still do not really know the rules of this forum, I have not seen my post as usual so I thought I was wrong in sending him

[gszes]

ggwhiz, on 2013-April-27, 09:48, said:

4nt for a straight aces response. Pard plays 5♣ or I play more of them. If lho bids over this my pard doubles to show zero, I'll pass and cross my fingers.

If it goes double - redouble by pard shows zero and I'll bid 5♣.

Immediately bid 4n asking for aces using PODI PORI

Dopi ropi sigh its certainly popular and it works most of the time but IMHO PODI PORI is hugely more flexible under a wide
array of circumstances including those situations where DOPI ROPI or DEPO REPO fail. For ex if p has zero aces and the
opps bid say 5h over my 4n p Passes to show zero and we are no longer forced to take any action depending on the
circumstances. I would also bid 4n here knowing that 5c should make even if I only find p with the stiff club J or maybe even
9x and a complete bust elsewhere. The 4n bid also has the advantage of being highly preemptive it gives us the information
we need to investigate slam and hinders the opps. I have never seen a hand where 4n was needed to describe a 1 or 2
suited hand but I have seen many where immediately asking for aces was all I needed to do.

[nige1]

deep writes "5°Major diamond 4°. What can better bid South ? He is interfering then is possible 3nt OR 3 ♠gambling? OR better another bid?"

IMO
- If 4N is simple Blackwood the 4N = 10 if 4♣ is Gerber, then 4♣ =10
- But many play 4N = minor freak or specific aces. And 4♣ = natural pre-empt.
- For such players, 5♣ = 10, 3♠ = 9, 2♣ = 8, 3N = 7, Double = 6, 6♣ = 5.

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[ggwhiz]

hrothgar, on 2013-April-27, 10:13, said:

Certainly a great hand for this agreement...

What on earth would 4nt mean otherwise and why? But I'm old and can name all 4 beatles.

[Zelandakh]

ggwhiz, on 2013-April-29, 20:27, said:

What on earth would 4nt mean otherwise and why? But I'm old and can name all 4 beatles.

It is not unknown for a 4NT overcall to show an extreme 2-suited hand. Why? because it is considerably more frequent and generally more useful. If you are going to use a "useless" jump for ace asking then I would have thought 4♠ made more sense. But I cannot say I have ever heard of anyone playing this aside from the "4NT always Blackwood" players.

[jallerton]

hrothgar, on 2013-April-27, 09:16, said:

Frustrating hand.

Partner needs a red Ace for me to make 5♣

Does he? What suit is LHO most likely to lead at trick 1? Even on a red suit lead, you could make 5♣ as partner might have an entry in trumps.

[hrothgar]

jallerton, on 2013-April-30, 16:18, said:

Does he? What suit is LHO most likely to lead at trick 1? Even on a red suit lead, you could make 5♣ as partner might have an entry in trumps.

I agree completely that a trump entry is possible (though it doesn't seem particularly likely).

Not so sure about the Spade lead...

[ggwhiz]

Zelandakh, on 2013-April-30, 09:11, said:

It is not unknown for a 4NT overcall to show an extreme 2-suited hand. Why? because it is considerably more frequent and generally more useful. If you are going to use a "useless" jump for ace asking then I would have thought 4♠ made more sense. But I cannot say I have ever heard of anyone playing this aside from the "4NT always Blackwood" players.

No need to lose blackwood or anything else. We do play 4♠ for the extreme 2-suiter. There may well be an advantage to reversing those bids but it's a rare auction and these bids kinda hit you in the head.