[RunemPard]

Guess I am mostly looking for your methods on bidding these types of hands assuming you are playing a strong 2♣. Usually I would open 1, but this and others are just too good.

♠AQ63
♥A
♦A3
♣AKJT84

What methods do you use to find the 4/4 major fits? Another question I was debating is uses for minor bids after a Kokish relay. (I have never seen these or read anything about them.) like..

2♣-2♦
2♥-2♠
3♣/♦

Thanks for posting on the thread,

Don

[Fluffy]

I think the classic meaning for 3m after kokish is: I have this suit and hearts as well (5+♥, 4+ minor)

Finding 4-4 spades doesn't look so hard, bid 3♣, and over 3 red bid 3 spades.

[kriegel]

After 2♣ - 2♦; 3♣, responder can mark time with 3♦ to give opener a chance to bid a 4-card major

You don't have that luxury with diamonds, but you can use
2♣ - 2♦
3♦ to show single-suited diamonds and
3M to show 4M, 5+♦

You're in worse shape if 2♣ - 2♥ is a double negative because now you need 3♥ as natural.

[JLOGIC]

kriegel, on 2013-January-17, 17:15, said:

After 2♣ - 2♦; 3♣, responder can mark time with 3♦ to give opener a chance to bid a 4-card major

You don't have that luxury with diamonds, but you can use
2♣ - 2♦
3♦ to show single-suited diamonds and
3M to show 4M, 5+♦

Yeah this is what I'm currently playing, I think it's adequate. I do miss having a double negative over clubs(I don't play 2C 2H double negative), but whatever, it's worth it. There is just not enough space and finding 4-4 major suit fits must be the priority.