[Fluffy]

♠42
♥1087632
♦AKJ
♣104


MPs, all white, you deal and it goes:

pass-(1♦)-pass-(pass)

field is advanced, LHO is pro, RHO is client.

[dwar0123]

Partner can't bid over 1♦ and it isn't because he is sitting with a bunch of diamond strength. My partner is weak and has no 5 card majors.

I think I pass, I like my mp chances better defending 1♦ then I do risking going down in hearts or the more likely case of helping them find their better scoring spade fit.

[Fluffy]

I passed, and 3♥ was makeable, while 1♦ made 8 tricks.

partner had I think

Kxxxx
Kx
xx
KQxx

certainly not a pass over 1♦, so maye my pass is not that bad...

[gwnn]

I suggest caffeine (to partner).

[gszes]

even if rho has 18 p has around 10 and their inability to bid
should indicate a generally balanced hand. P may be even
stronger and a doubleton heart kept them from acting in
direct seat. The odds of the oppps getting to game would
appear to be small and setting 1d will probably be difficult.

If the opps get to a better partial so be it but just letting them
play 1d seems too cowardly given the circumstances.

[gwnn]

Ah now I see he have 6 hearts, somehow I counted only 5 before. I guess I'd bid 1H then.

[ggwhiz]

Partner has some marked values (just not the ones in the actual hand) ande they are working behind whatever lho has.

I'm in for 1♥ and competing to 2, pard may be able to compete to 3 IF they find spades.

Trying to beat 1♦ at 50 a trick or thinking they have a better plus when my values are solid and pards are behind their strength is a big stretch whenh I have every right to believe we have +110 or better.

[MickyB]

Pass IMO. Pard's failure to make a takeout double implies that he has a bad hand [better to defend 1D on pard's choice of lead than defend 2D on a heart lead, let alone them finding a spade fit] or he has diamonds [we want to pass] or he only has two hearts [bidding will sometimes work but more often push them into a superior spade partial].

[rmnka447]

A little arithmetic helps some time. You're looking at 8 HCP, responder doesn't have more than 5. That leaves 27 points between pard and opener. Even if opener has a good 16-17, your side has about half the points. You only lose by getting in the auction on those rare occasions where opener has a 18+ HCP hand and passing responder has full stroke for the pass. Responder IS allowed to have less than a maximum pass.

So you bid 1 ♥ which shows less than an opener and some heart length. Pard will have a good idea about what your hand is because you didn't bid 2 ♥ when you had the opportunity to do so.

[mike777]

partner has an opening hand, long spades, nv and yet did not bid....I pass, pls pard cannot hold this hand.


lets give opener some 21 hcp and 2 suited not 16.


AKQJ...AK...T98765...A

[CSGibson]

Pass appears fairly obvious to me. Partner didn't act, and if I reopen, I'd be terrified the next call I'd see was some number of spades from opps, with partner getting off to a heart lead.

Partner's actual hand is impossible, as it is an easy overcall, so I do not think the result on this board is telling.

[ggwhiz]

Fluffy, on 2012-October-01, 10:11, said:

Kxxx
Qx
xxx
KQxx

The above tweaked hand for pard IS a pass of 1♦ that makes me a favorite for +110 and they are likely to go down if they take the push. Way against the odds to get any mp's even (especially?) if you beat 1♦ non vul.

Only wins if they can make spades and find them and that's an unlikely parlay.

ps. any number of spades they may bid rates to have me on lead after lho reopens with a double. How else do they find that suit and I like my defence to lead through to whatever pard may have.

[mike777]

btw expect some to open a wk 2h in first seat, nv vs nv.

so as to not have to keep worrying about coming in later.

[the hog]

Two comments. Firstly your partner was asleep. Secondly, 1H is totally obvious on this hand.

[mike777]

not sure why obv

1) you can open 2h
2) pard can overcall 1s
3) so dont see how these hands possible.