BBO Discussion Forums: The spades! - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

The spades! Or the clubs?

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,082
  • Joined: 2006-August-31
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Santiago, Chile
  • Interests:Bridge, Video Games, Languages, Travelling.

Posted 2012-April-19, 21:18

MP, all white, partner dealt and you hold:

QT7xxx
KT
J8
J86

1-1
2-???

What do you bid?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


My YouTube Channel
0

#2 User is online   mike777 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 16,825
  • Joined: 2003-October-07
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2012-April-19, 21:43

2s at mp.

option two is pass.
0

#3 User is offline   wank 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,866
  • Joined: 2008-July-13

Posted 2012-April-19, 22:09

easy pass. yes spades score more but even if partner has 2+ of them we would expect more tricks in clubs. if opps compete we can try 2 which after passing clearly offers a choice of black suit.
0

#4 User is offline   mikl_plkcc 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 321
  • Joined: 2008-November-20
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:sailing, bridge

Posted 2012-April-19, 23:52

2 (NF) absolutely. We want a major fit rather than a minor fit.
0

#5 User is offline   CSGibson 

  • Tubthumper
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,835
  • Joined: 2007-July-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portland, OR, USA
  • Interests:Bridge, pool, financial crime. New experiences, new people.

Posted 2012-April-20, 01:06

pass. The biggest upside I see to 2 is it might keep them out of their red suit contract - I'm willing to bet we score better in clubs than spades on 70% of hands consistent with this bidding, and equal scoring on another 25% of hands.
Chris Gibson
0

#6 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

  • Limit bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 8,482
  • Joined: 2004-November-02
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:England
  • Interests:Bridge, classical music, skiing... but I spend more time earning a living than doing any of those

Posted 2012-April-20, 02:10

Pass

(2S the first round if playing weak jump shifts, but that has pre-emptive value that we've lost now)

p.s. historically, in this sequence 2S used to be played as quite a constructive call; compared to 1D-1S-2C-2S where it was just a weak hand with long spades.
0

#7 User is offline   ahydra 

  • AQT92 AQ --- QJ6532
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,840
  • Joined: 2009-September-09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Wellington, NZ

Posted 2012-April-20, 04:57

I'm tempted by 2S at MPs - maybe it makes 110 instead of 90. That spade suit is rather rubbish though.

ahydra
0

#8 User is offline   rhm 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,092
  • Joined: 2005-June-27

Posted 2012-April-20, 05:17

The main point of bidding 2 is not which partial is safer or scores more, but to keep opponents form finding their plus score.
Even if 2 goes down one or two, it might score quite well.
Expecting to be allowed to play in 2 peacefully at all white is a bit naive.

Rainer Herrmann
0

#9 User is offline   the hog 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-March-07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Laos
  • Interests:Wagner and Bridge

Posted 2012-April-20, 05:43

Pass. Bidding 2S and expecting not to be doubled when it is wrong seems very naive to me.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
0

#10 User is offline   rhm 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,092
  • Joined: 2005-June-27

Posted 2012-April-20, 06:27

 the hog, on 2012-April-20, 05:43, said:

Pass. Bidding 2S and expecting not to be doubled when it is wrong seems very naive to me.

I never said or implied I would stay in 2 doubled.
I implied that passing 2 is an open invitation to opponents, particularly at all white, to find their red suit fit.

Rainer Herrmann
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

3 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 3 guests, 0 anonymous users