How would you have bid?
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#1
Posted 2012-April-03, 19:18
How would you have bid?
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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#2
Posted 2012-April-03, 19:27
You need special methods for this hand, or else your are guessing. In some of my partnerships, this hand is shown with a jump rebid of the minor I opened (good three card support, strong six card+ suit).
#3
Posted 2012-April-03, 19:29
again tempted to bid a goofy 14-16 nt........
any event bw death hand.
#4
Posted 2012-April-03, 19:39
2D-2S. East expects the auction is over, and close to 100 percent of the time it is over.
3S.....This surprising action by West would be enough for me, as East, to bid 4. My gawd, I even have the king of diamonds.
#6
Posted 2012-April-03, 19:50
3 ♦ - 3 ♠
4 ♠
Opener has a 5 loser hand, so a 3 ♦ rebid is Ok. Responder's rebid should show 6 ♠ and invitational values.
Opener should accept.
#8
Posted 2012-April-03, 21:31
#9
Posted 2012-April-03, 21:51
But at either scoring I'd have probably rebid 3♦, which may help find 3NT or perhaps slam in ♠ or ♦ or NT, and at least makes it very hard for opps to now come in with their ♥ if partner is weak. The jump rebid (in Acol) promises a good 6+ card suit with 6+ playing tricks in a decent hand, and that's what I have - the ♠ support helps, as would a better hand defensively, but you can't have both (well, you can but then would be looking for a forcing bid)
#10
Posted 2012-April-03, 21:51
Playing my favourite methods, I bid 2NT which shows various hand types including the BWHD.
#11
Posted 2012-April-03, 21:52
given the death hand we all know this is a problem
we can open 1nt
or rebid 2d
or 3d
or pard can rebid 4s over our 3s
Imean on this one we are vul...bonus.....
#12
Posted 2012-April-03, 21:59
the hog, on 2012-April-03, 21:51, said:
Passing 3♦ when you would have bid on over 2♦ seems a little off-radar to me. Or are you expecting opps to reopen when 2♦ is about to be passed out, and to use that as a "leg-up"? Could you elaborate, thanks
#13
Posted 2012-April-03, 22:17
Blame 25% west 75% east.
#14
Posted 2012-April-03, 23:11
Statto, on 2012-April-03, 21:59, said:
Rebidding 2S over 2D is merely a correction of strain. Rebidding 3S over 3D is forcing. I can envision East passing 3D with the given hand, opting for a misfit at the 3-level rather than a misfit at the 4-level if opener doesn't have spades; but East doesn't have the same concern when bidding 2S over 2D.
#15
Posted 2012-April-03, 23:29
#16
Posted 2012-April-03, 23:56
Antrax, on 2012-April-03, 23:29, said:
This is really the point of the thing!
NAE: It depends what your agreements are after a 1D opener. Can responder bypass 4 small spades to bid 1NT? If he cannot, a 3 card raise of spades is not always going to be a good idea, because you have a very nice diamond suit which might play better than spades. I mean, he could have something like
S: Txxx
H: AQx
D: xx
C: QJxx
In which case nothing is pleasant. But conversely, you could have a different holding with 4 spades in which partner showing his Txxx is critical.
#17
Posted 2012-April-04, 01:40
Cthulhu D, on 2012-April-03, 23:56, said:
NAE: It depends what your agreements are after a 1D opener. Can responder bypass 4 small spades to bid 1NT? If he cannot, a 3 card raise of spades is not always going to be a good idea, because you have a very nice diamond suit which might play better than spades. I mean, he could have something like
S: Txxx
H: AQx
D: xx
C: QJxx
In which case nothing is pleasant. But conversely, you could have a different holding with 4 spades in which partner showing his Txxx is critical.
no that is not the point...silly comments
this is a death hand for many reasons not one...... silly
death hand means we dont have a good bid.......if we do,,,,, not a death hand..silly comments
#18
Posted 2012-April-04, 05:16
Then isn't 3S NAT GF with 6 cards? In which case W has an easy 4S bid, problem solved.
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