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Your opinion on competitive bidding doubles and redoubles

Poll: Your opinion on competitive bidding (20 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your bid after 2 Diamonds?

  1. Pass (2 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  2. Double (14 votes [70.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 70.00%

  3. 2 Hearts (4 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

What is your bid after 2 Diamonds redoubled?

  1. Pass (17 votes [85.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 85.00%

  2. 2 Hearts (3 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  3. 3 Clubs (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   vitorlopes 

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Posted 2012-March-29, 08:55

As West you hold:

ATx
KJTx
Q
AJTxx

EW are vulnerable and NS not vulnerable. North Declarer. Bidding:

After two passes, South opens 1 in 3rd position, you as West overcall 2, North bids 2 and after two passes what is your action?

Assuming you double, North redoubles, your partner East passes and South, after some thought, passes too. Your bid?
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Posted 2012-March-29, 09:17

If partner is on your side, N/S have made some kind of mistake. I expect pard will be leading a club. What does dummy look like?

This is not the same as (say):
(1m)-X-(XX)-P
(P) -......where most people expect the doubler to start scrambling.

On the OP scenario, the overcaller has fairly accurately described with the rebalancing double; advancer had to do something, and he decided to defend.
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Posted 2012-March-29, 09:32

I refuse to be west.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-March-29, 09:53

View Posthan, on 2012-March-29, 09:32, said:

I refuse to be west.

O.K., apparently you would not have overcalled 2C. But, doubling 1S with 3-4-1-5 is not particularly attractive either. I don't believe the 2C choice was outlandish. And, as things have developed, you have better defense against 2DXX than partner might have hoped for.
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Posted 2012-March-29, 09:55

I'd rebid 2 rather than double. When it's convenient to bid our major, we should do so. That allows double to show 3-6.

Everyone seems to play that partner's pass says he wants to defend, so I'd assume that's what he means. I'm not convinced that it's best, though, especially if your style is to double both with and without four hearts here.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-March-29, 10:14

View Postaguahombre, on 2012-March-29, 09:53, said:

O.K., apparently you would not have overcalled 2C. But, doubling 1S with 3-4-1-5 is not particularly attractive either. I don't believe the 2C choice was outlandish. And, as things have developed, you have better defense against 2DXX than partner might have hoped for.


No I meant, why can't we be south? In the newspapers we are always south, why can't we be south on the forums as well? Putting us in the west seat makes it too hard!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-March-29, 10:18

OK OK, I made the extra effort and I now understand the auction. I guess it wasn't that hard.

With my partner our agreement is that his pass suggests defending 2D so we have nothing to think about.

I'm fine with 2C btw, and I would certainly not double! 1NT is possible because of those nice 10's (especially in spades).
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-March-29, 10:20

I overcalled a somewhat bent 1N not 2. If LHO bids 2 still then I do double for t/o, if he doubles for pens, I have a full escape mechanism to use.
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Posted 2012-March-29, 10:24

View Posthan, on 2012-March-29, 10:14, said:

No I meant, why can't we be south? In the newspapers we are always south, why can't we be south on the forums as well? Putting us in the west seat makes it too hard!

But, South is always the Declarer in the newspapers; and you don't want to be declarer this time :rolleyes:
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Posted 2012-March-29, 12:53

Hi,

X, followed by 2H.

There are two schools, one says - pass after XX is converting
the other school says, this showes no preference.
The argument against the 2nd school is, that they may psych XX.

Take your pick, whatever, they will have diamond fit.

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Posted 2012-March-30, 04:47

The redouble might not even be a psyche, maybe the third seat opened light and partner just holds good diamonds.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-April-06, 18:31

View PostCyberyeti, on 2012-March-29, 10:20, said:

I overcalled a somewhat bent 1N not 2. If LHO bids 2 still then I do double for t/o, if he doubles for pens, I have a full escape mechanism to use.

I would definitely have overcalled 1NT but this seems to have worked out better. Pass
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