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#1 User is offline   rduran1216 

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Posted 2012-February-07, 14:53

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Posted 2012-February-07, 15:07

4 is not my style with two bullets. Furthermore, if partner cue 4, and I am looking at two aces, why aren't I bidding slam?

South is supposed to guess that partner has a heart control? OK, South gets 10% of the charge.
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Posted 2012-February-07, 15:12

I would have bid slam with the south cards opposite 4d, with xxxx in the heart suit there is a good enough chance that partner is short, and that is enough for small slam.

I'm not really sure how I feel about 4d, its not my style, but preempts should be variable etc etc, but I think once south bid 4H north must do more. He has a great hand for a 4d bid.
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Posted 2012-February-07, 15:15

North could hardly have more for his 4D bid (in fact, he has too much imo). 100% N.
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Posted 2012-February-07, 16:19

a companion question might be, what is the right call with the N hand, is it 5D?
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Posted 2012-February-07, 16:40

No, you either overcall 2D or 4D. 5D would be insane. After you bid 4D and your partner bids 4H, obv bid either 5H or 4N. I was thinking 5H was better but then I realized 4N followed by 5N would show 2 aces and partner would thus know your hand so that's probably better.
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Posted 2012-February-07, 16:47

4 diamonds is fine. 5 diamonds is not (on the 1st or 2nd round). my pre-empts are underwritten by lloyds insurance market but even i would think i had a good hand for slam with 2 bangers.

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Posted 2012-February-07, 17:27

It is 2 for me.
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Posted 2012-February-07, 18:15

I would tell north that aces are good cards.
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Posted 2012-February-07, 18:37

North should cue the heart control, obviously.
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Posted 2012-February-08, 02:54

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-February-07, 16:40, said:

No, you either overcall 2D or 4D. 5D would be insane. After you bid 4D and your partner bids 4H, obv bid either 5H or 4N. I was thinking 5H was better but then I realized 4N followed by 5N would show 2 aces and partner would thus know your hand so that's probably better.

After a three keycard reply can't we still have a trump loser? Presumably partner could have a singleton king.

I think we should ask for keycards, then bid the queen ask. If partner has Kx, he'll know that trumps are solid. We probably wouldn't have bid 4 with AJ10xxxx and a side ace, but if we did have that the finesse through opener would probably be odds-on.
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Posted 2012-February-08, 03:08

Yes of course you are right. I just meant we can show our exact hand by bidding keycard, I was lazy in implying we should show the trump queen which we obv shouldn't.
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