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1)In the following auction:
(1M) - 2m - ( p ) - 3M! = ??
a ) stop-ask
b ) splinter
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2) How about the following:
( 1m ) - 1M - ( p ) - 3m! = ??
a ) stop-ask
b ) splinter
c ) mixed raise ( 2m! would be a limit or better raise )
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Jump-Cue What's the better / or more popular use ?
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Posted 2011-November-25, 08:36
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( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
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Posted 2011-November-25, 09:25
1. I play this as stopper ask. Without a jump it shows a good hand, usually with fit.
2. I play it as mixed raise and think this is a very useful tool.
2. I play it as mixed raise and think this is a very useful tool.
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Posted 2011-November-25, 10:39
1.Splinter If you bid 2M, p will usually bid 2NT if he has a stopper and not a marginal overcall. If he bids 3m you can bid 3M to ask for a half stop.
2.mixed
2.mixed
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Posted 2011-November-25, 11:45
2---mixed raise seems best and probably will be consensus meaning.
1---I have found that partner usually knows about her stopper after a simple cue, and I don't seem to need a bid which specifically asks for it. The splinter seems more likely to be helpful (frequency wise).
1---I have found that partner usually knows about her stopper after a simple cue, and I don't seem to need a bid which specifically asks for it. The splinter seems more likely to be helpful (frequency wise).
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Posted 2011-November-25, 11:57
aguahombre, on 2011-November-25, 11:45, said:
2---mixed raise seems best and probably will be consensus meaning.
1---I have found that partner usually knows about her stopper after a simple cue, and I don't seem to need a bid which specifically asks for it. The splinter seems more likely to be helpful (frequency wise).
1---I have found that partner usually knows about her stopper after a simple cue, and I don't seem to need a bid which specifically asks for it. The splinter seems more likely to be helpful (frequency wise).
Me too. I can invent a hand without a fit that would still want to know about a stopper, but it is not likely that I will get that hand. And if I have some fit, I can make the simple cue (possibly followed by a second cue to ask for a stop).
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Posted 2011-November-27, 07:06
Splinter, mixed raise.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2011-November-27, 07:53
1. Splinter
2. 4 card lim+ raise. Given RHO's pass I play 2NT as natural invite but if RHO had doubled/bid then 2NT=4 card lim+ raise and a 3m jump bid (if applicable) is mixed raise.
2. 4 card lim+ raise. Given RHO's pass I play 2NT as natural invite but if RHO had doubled/bid then 2NT=4 card lim+ raise and a 3m jump bid (if applicable) is mixed raise.
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Posted 2011-November-27, 12:26
andy_h, on 2011-November-27, 07:53, said:
1. Splinter
2. 4 card lim+ raise. Given RHO's pass I play 2NT as natural invite but if RHO had doubled/bid then 2NT=4 card lim+ raise and a 3m jump bid (if applicable) is mixed raise.
2. 4 card lim+ raise. Given RHO's pass I play 2NT as natural invite but if RHO had doubled/bid then 2NT=4 card lim+ raise and a 3m jump bid (if applicable) is mixed raise.
Andy .... On the 2nd one, what do you use 2m! for ? [ if you use the 3m!-jump as a limit+ ]
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"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
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Posted 2011-November-27, 20:11
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-November-27, 12:26, said:
Andy .... On the 2nd one, what do you use 2m! for ? [ if you use the 3m!-jump as a limit+ ]
I use 2m as a 3 card inv+ raise so we can stop low if partner's overcall was light, and it may also give partner the needed space to show a 2nd suit or possibly show some game interest but doesn't want to commit to the 3 level. I think it helps to distinguish between 3 or 4 card support to explore game prospects (with exercised judgement, for example with 4M333 I may prefer to bid 2m) and would be more beneficial than to distinguish between say 3m=6-9, 3M=0-6.
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Posted 2011-November-29, 08:11
(1M) - 2m - ( p ) - 3M! = ??
My guess is that most people play this as splinter. Just so you know, I myself don't have it defined
( 1m ) - 1M - ( p ) - 3m! = ??
Robson/Segal made the mixed raise meaning popular and I think that's what most people use it for. Others use it for a decent 4-card invitational raise or minisplinter.
My guess is that most people play this as splinter. Just so you know, I myself don't have it defined
( 1m ) - 1M - ( p ) - 3m! = ??
Robson/Segal made the mixed raise meaning popular and I think that's what most people use it for. Others use it for a decent 4-card invitational raise or minisplinter.
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