[Phil]

A hand given to me recently:

KJx ATxxx void AJxxx

(1♠) - 2♠ - (dbl) - pass
(pass) - ?

Double is penalty oriented / cards.

Thanks

[Free]

Is this a trick question?

[Phil]

Free, on 2011-March-14, 09:11, said:

Is this a trick question?

Of course not. But you might want to consider what partner is doing when he passes the x.

[gnasher]

Without agreement, pass, redouble and 2NT all say he wants to know what my minor is. There are cleverer ways to use these bids.

[Fluffy]

partner has to have a way to ask us to bid our 6 card heart suit if there is one, IMO that is 2NT or 3♣, but not pass.

Now we have 3 bids avaible (redouble , 2NT and 3♣) to show longer clubs, long clubs but no preference and avaibility to play in the 4th suit.

IMO 2NT is theone that lets partner bid his natural suit, and that's what we should avoid. I would redouble to show no preference.

[ArcLight]

gnasher, on 2011-March-14, 10:37, said:

Without agreement, pass, redouble and 2NT all say he wants to know what my minor is. There are cleverer ways to use these bids.

Off Topic but what are the better ways to use these 2 bids? XX and 2NT?


I am assuming pard has 3 spades, and 2 hearts. With 2 spades LHO can raise his pard.
With 3 hearts pard can support your hearts. thats 8 unknown cards. If they are 4-4 or 5-3 we are fine.
If they are 6-2 or worse not so fine.
Or maybe .. 7-1 or 8-0, and you and pard can cross ruff some minor suit cards, and make the heart ace.
Down 2 doubled? Maybe thats the best you can get out for. Maybe pard has the heart K, and you can get out for down 1 doubled. Maybe even make on some miraculous lie of the cards. Unless RHO lead the ace, and another spade is continued. You make 2 spades, 2 hearts, maybe a coupl eof others, down 2 doubled.

Since there are ways for pard to find out about your minor, I pass.
Smile, and soldier on.

[whereagles]

I bid 2NT. Hopefully pard will take this as nat.