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Posted 2011-March-12, 18:15

making 4

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Posted 2011-March-12, 18:36

No blame here (well, I blame East :P)
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Posted 2011-March-13, 01:55

I blame the second double.
4S would have worked and it was planned from the start to double and then show spades.
Although South is forced one level higher then he expected he should have sticked with his plan.
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Posted 2011-March-13, 09:58

South, I would bid 4S over 4H showing a good flexible hand.
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Posted 2011-March-14, 02:52

switch a north's spade with a west's club and 4X goes 500 against downs in 4 then everyone would bame south for not doubling a second time :D

Not much blame to go around really.
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Posted 2011-March-14, 03:32

We had basically the same auction at MP (I was south), didn't even consider charging myself for the 2nd double, I mean...wtf. My dad also had the same auction (he was EW). Dan Wolkowitz had the auction 2H X 4H (lol) p p and asked me if he should bid 4S or double and I said I think not doubling is absurd.

I just mean, I think this is standard. Sometimes ***** happens.
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Posted 2011-March-14, 03:36

View PostFluffy, on 2011-March-14, 02:52, said:

switch a north's spade with a west's club and 4X goes 500 against downs in 4 then everyone would bame south for not doubling a second time :D


5 would be making then, despite the 4-0 break. Maybe we'd be blaming North for not converting 4 to 5?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-March-14, 04:02

View Postgnasher, on 2011-March-14, 03:36, said:

5 would be making then, despite the 4-0 break. Maybe we'd be blaming North for not converting 4 to 5?

But then someone would construct a 6133 hand that is off three tricks in either spades or clubs?
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Posted 2011-March-14, 05:09

ye olde lore "when in doubt... 4 over 4" would have worked here.
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