2wgt - undefined bid
#1
Posted 2011-February-14, 19:37
1M:2M
2M+1 asks partner in which suit she would accept a gt and
1M:2M
3x is a short suit game try.
So in this sequence
1♥:2♥
2♠ responders options are
2N - I would accept a gt in spades
3♣ - accepting a gt in clubs
3♦ - accepting a gt in diamonds
3♥ - I would not accept a game try in any suit
3♠ - ?
Does anyone have any creative meaning for 3♠?
(still learning)
"At last: just calm down, this kind of disrupted boards happens every day in our bridge community. It will always be an inherent part of bridge until we move to a modern platform, and then will we have other hopefully less frequent issues." P Swennson
#2
Posted 2011-February-14, 19:54
#3
Posted 2011-February-14, 19:56
#4
Posted 2011-February-14, 23:23
relknes, on 2011-February-14, 19:56, said:
yep
#5
Posted 2011-February-14, 23:34
jillybean, on 2011-February-14, 19:37, said:
1M:2M
2M+1 asks partner in which suit she would accept a gt and
1M:2M
3x is a short suit game try.
So in this sequence
1♥:2♥
2♠ responders options are
2N - I would accept a gt in spades
3♣ - accepting a gt in clubs
3♦ - accepting a gt in diamonds
3♥ - I would not accept a game try in any suit
3♠ - ?
Does anyone have any creative meaning for 3♠?
This is really way out there but how about 3s=4 card support in spades?
Just joking this should be lol...easy......3s is just 4 spades.. random cuebids or other random bids is insane!
Too be honest I cannot believe these other answers...
#6
Posted 2011-February-15, 00:00
In the absence of discussion, I would assume 3NT was an offer to play 3NT instead of 4M, 3S/4m cuebids in case opener had a slam try instead of a game try, and 4M to play. Lots of other (and probably better) agreements are possible.
#7
Posted 2011-February-15, 02:13
mike777, on 2011-February-14, 23:34, said:
Just joking this should be lol...easy......3s is just 4 spades.. random cuebids or other random bids is insane!
Too be honest I cannot believe these other answers...
How does "3s is just 4 spades" add anything useful to this auction? We have the 2N bid to accept a game try in spades.
(still learning)
"At last: just calm down, this kind of disrupted boards happens every day in our bridge community. It will always be an inherent part of bridge until we move to a modern platform, and then will we have other hopefully less frequent issues." P Swennson
#8
Posted 2011-February-15, 02:23
Siegmund, on 2011-February-15, 00:00, said:
That is what I was hoping for
(still learning)
"At last: just calm down, this kind of disrupted boards happens every day in our bridge community. It will always be an inherent part of bridge until we move to a modern platform, and then will we have other hopefully less frequent issues." P Swennson
#9
Posted 2011-February-15, 03:03
jillybean, on 2011-February-15, 02:13, said:
so?
per your comments....2nt is very very =confusing per your comments
I mean you can hope for alot but still.....3s over 2s is really basic...not hope
I mean to hope that 3s means many many others is just too confusing.
#10
Posted 2011-February-15, 06:31
#11
Posted 2011-February-15, 07:06
1♥ - 2♥
??
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
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#12
Posted 2011-February-15, 07:39
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-February-15, 07:06, said:
1♥ - 2♥
??
2NT presumably. I usually like to play it the other way round though (and invert 2S and 2NT)
#13
Posted 2011-February-15, 08:40
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-February-15, 07:06, said:
1♥ - 2♥
??
These days with a ♥ fit all usual meanings of ♠ and NT are reversed:
...-2♥-2♠ = relay
...-2♥-2NT = SST ♠
...-3♥-3♠ = serious or frivolous
...-3♥-3NT = ♠ control
...-4♥-4♠ = Kickback RKC
...-4♥-4NT = control ♠ or voidwood ♠
...-5♥-5♠ = King ask
...-5♥-5NT = something like 3rd round control ask ♠, depending on the situation
#14
Posted 2011-February-15, 09:18
jillybean, on 2011-February-15, 02:13, said:
2NT just show that you would accept a game try in spades, while not specifying whether you would accept other game tries, also not specifying spade length (you could have Kx, AQx, and so on), 3♠ shows that you would accept any game try and shows spade length, therefore allowing your partnership to play in spades as well as hearts, and also he knows you have a maximum hand if he is interested in slam.
George Carlin
#15
Posted 2011-February-15, 09:47
gwnn, on 2011-February-15, 09:18, said:
3S accepting any game try, showing spade length and a fit for partners first suit sounds slammish and would be a request for partner to cue?
Could you give me an example of a hand that would bid this way after raising partners 1H to 2H.
(still learning)
"At last: just calm down, this kind of disrupted boards happens every day in our bridge community. It will always be an inherent part of bridge until we move to a modern platform, and then will we have other hopefully less frequent issues." P Swennson
#16
Posted 2011-February-15, 10:09
3♠ just shows four spades in case partner has four.
George Carlin
#17
Posted 2011-February-15, 10:29
gwnn, on 2011-February-15, 10:09, said:
3♠ just shows four spades in case partner has four.
I'm confused. Wouldn't this hand bid 2N/2S, accepting a game try in spades? I'm not accepting any game try with this hand.
(still learning)
"At last: just calm down, this kind of disrupted boards happens every day in our bridge community. It will always be an inherent part of bridge until we move to a modern platform, and then will we have other hopefully less frequent issues." P Swennson
#18
Posted 2011-February-15, 10:59
-if you can think of a hand that accepts any game try, then you can also probably think of such a hand with 4 spades (perhaps you can only think of such a hand if it has a 5 card suit - in this case maybe 3S should show a 5 card spade suit)
-if you can't think of a hand that accepts any game try, then 3S is an impossible bid - you should not bid higher than 3H if you can't accept all game tries.
George Carlin
#19
Posted 2011-February-15, 13:08
mike777, on 2011-February-14, 23:34, said:
Just joking this should be lol...easy......3s is just 4 spades.. random cuebids or other random bids is insane!
Too be honest I cannot believe these other answers...
We were asked for creative meanings, not the meaning we would assume undiscussed.
I like an immediate 4♦ by responder after any game try as an accept with four cards in the other major. Using it after both 1♥ and 1♠ and after both a first step game try and a short suit try makes it easier to remember. It doesn't deal with the case where you wish to accept only if there is a fit in the other major. But it is hard to squeeze that into a two way game try structure.