Opps are silent. Partner opens 1nt, then 2♦-2♥. Do you make a slam try with this hand? If so, what is your plan? 2♥ showed either a min hand with 3♥ or a max with only 2. thx,
slam try?
#1
Posted 2011-February-09, 11:41
Opps are silent. Partner opens 1nt, then 2♦-2♥. Do you make a slam try with this hand? If so, what is your plan? 2♥ showed either a min hand with 3♥ or a max with only 2. thx,
#2
Posted 2011-February-09, 12:32
#4
Posted 2011-February-09, 13:24
#5
Posted 2011-February-09, 13:48
#6
Posted 2011-February-09, 13:55
I also guess we should not have bothered to transfer.
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#7
Posted 2011-February-09, 13:51
#8
Posted 2011-February-09, 21:12
gnasher, on 2011-February-09, 13:48, said:
Responder's with a long Major are stuck with for low-level GF rebid after a transfer.
I've shown this before and it drives da flufster crazy.
Let's take gnasher's 2nd example:
1NT - 2D!
2H - 3C! ( GF, maybe artificial )
3D! ( new suit = 4 or 5 ♣ but only 2 ♥ ) - 3H ( long ♥ suit, cancels interest in ♣ )
4S! ( RKC for ♥ ) - 5H ( 2 + ♥ Q )
6H
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( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
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#9
Posted 2011-February-10, 06:05
#10
Posted 2011-February-10, 06:42
#11
Posted 2011-February-10, 07:52
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-February-09, 21:12, said:
I've shown this before and it drives da flufster crazy.
Let's take gnasher's 2nd example:
1NT - 2D!
2H - 3C! ( GF, maybe artificial )
3D! ( new suit = 4 or 5 ♣ but only 2 ♥ ) - 3H ( long ♥ suit, cancels interest in ♣ )
4S! ( RKC for ♥ ) - 5H ( 2 + ♥ Q )
6H
The point of my examples was that there might be a grand slam. If the best that your methods can do is get you to the same wrong contract as everybody else, it's not much of an advertisement.
#12
Posted 2011-February-10, 10:26
gnasher, on 2011-February-10, 07:52, said:
Then, let's try your 1st example:
Responder
Axx xxx AQJxx Axx
1NT - 2D!
2H - 3C!( ostensibly a 2nd 4 or 5 cd suit, but maybe artificial )
3H ( 3h but no 4c ) - 3S ( sort of a "waiting bid" )
3NT - 4C ( now showing the long ♥ hand w/advance cue )
4S! ( kickback RKC ) - 5H ( 2 + hQ )
5S! ( K-ask ) - 6D ( ♦ K only )
7NT ( counting 1s, 6h, 5d, 1c )
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But, honestly, I prefer the ♣ self-splinter bid after the transfer and simple accept.
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
#13
Posted 2011-February-10, 10:58
cherdano, on 2011-February-10, 06:42, said:
I have gotten rid of that, if my plan is to RKC in a major I have to start with Texas, or rebid something else to set the major, or even rebid 3m then Keycard. If I were to use one of them as RKC I think I'd use 4♦. Not sure what the point of that is though, since you almost never have a hand that can't safely invent some other bid... And even then, you can still bid texas then RKC.
#14
Posted 2011-February-10, 10:59
#15
Posted 2011-February-10, 10:59
#16
Posted 2011-February-10, 12:07
mtvesuvius, on 2011-February-10, 10:59, said:
I just copied/pasted his hand w/o counting.
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There is also the Meckwell - "TURBO-like" treatment for Responder's hand:
1NT - 2D! ( simple transfer )
2H - 5H! ( 2 + hQ; replying as if 4S!-RKC were asked )
5S! ( K-ask ) - 6D ( ♦ K only )
6H for hand #2 ( A K J x, x x, A x x, A x x x )
7NT for hand #1 ( A x x, x x, A Q J x x, A x x ... hoping the red suits split )
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
#17
Posted 2011-February-10, 14:23
cherdano, on 2011-February-10, 06:42, said:
Are you sure you don't have this confused with the Stayman sequences 1nt-2c-2h-(4c/4d)?
xfer followed by 4m has been splinter for as long as I can remember, with keycard hands using Texas.
#18
Posted 2011-February-10, 14:38
Stephen Tu, on 2011-February-10, 14:23, said:
xfer followed by 4m has been splinter for as long as I can remember, with keycard hands using Texas.
Same here. A few years ago I used to think that RKC / balanced slam try could be played after Jacoby, but I think I was confused.
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#19
Posted 2011-February-12, 07:09
Sooo, what was the actual opening 1NT hand here ?
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
#20
Posted 2011-February-13, 14:24