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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-August-10, 05:58

Kx
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Q9xxxxx
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1♠-(2♣)-?

no one vulnerable mps
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Posted 2010-August-10, 06:03

pass?

or do i need to do something outrageous in order to come dead last?
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Posted 2010-August-10, 06:21

I'd pass (though I briefly entertained a 2♠ bid)
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Posted 2010-August-10, 06:34

3♦
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Posted 2010-August-10, 06:36

I play negative free bids in all partnerships so this problem is completely unknown to me.
Do you "standard" players really pass 7carders here ? ;)
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Posted 2010-August-10, 06:39

I pass but this is the sort of problem where 2♠ gets the highest marks.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2010-August-10, 07:00

helene_t, on Aug 10 2010, 07:34 AM, said:

3♦

Fine if this is what it means, but is fit jump for me.

Pass.
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Posted 2010-August-10, 07:32

3♦ is not available because it's undiscussed.
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Posted 2010-August-10, 07:55

gwnn, on Aug 10 2010, 06:58 AM, said:

Kx
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Q9xxxxx
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1♠-(2♣)-?

no one vulnerable mps

am I out of green cards and have to use something else from my bidding box?
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Posted 2010-August-10, 07:56

bluecalm, on Aug 10 2010, 07:36 AM, said:

I play negative free bids in all partnerships so this problem is completely unknown to me.
Do you "standard" players really pass 7carders here ? :)

yes we do
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Posted 2010-August-10, 07:58

Pass.
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Posted 2010-August-10, 08:26

3♦ or pass, depending on methods.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2010-August-10, 08:34

bluecalm, on Aug 10 2010, 07:36 AM, said:

I play negative free bids in all partnerships so this problem is completely unknown to me.
Do you "standard" players really pass 7carders here ? :)

Yes we do, but we also get to show our five or six card diamond suit at the two level when we have a 12 count, instead of guessing over 5♣ when the tray comes back after we have made a meaningless negative double.
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Posted 2010-August-10, 08:38

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Yes we do, but we also get to show our five or six card diamond suit at the two level when we have a 12 count, instead of guessing over 5♣ when the tray comes back after we have made a meaningless negative double.


Standard when playing NFB's is playing 3♦ as natural, game forcing without 4 of other major so it's not like you hide 6♦ in any sequence.
Anyway discussion about NFB's probably won't be too fruitful. If I somehow were to play standard I would insist on playing jumps as weak and natural so I could bid 3♦ with this hand.

One thing I refuse to do is bidding 2♠. There are positions where raising with Hx is both safe and profitable but this is not one of them as risk of partner misevaluating strength of our combined resources is too big.
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Posted 2010-August-10, 11:00

Pass. Maybe 2♠ if pard is used to this style of bids :)
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Posted 2010-August-10, 14:08

Playing a method where you have to pass with a bunch of tricks and a secondary fit for partner seems inferior.

This is a normal 2♦ for me.
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Posted 2010-August-10, 14:56

3♦ if available, otherwise I'll have to pass (and pray).
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Posted 2010-August-10, 15:10

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Playing a method where you have to pass with a bunch of tricks and a secondary fit for partner seems inferior.


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I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys


Yeah...
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Posted 2010-August-10, 16:26

bluecalm I'm afraid you misunderstand the dburn quote. He was saying that there are too many restrictions in the Bermuda Bowl. He was not saying that American systems are somehow inferior.
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Posted 2010-August-10, 17:09

I'd bid 2♦, if that's forcing then i'd try 3♦, if its undiscussed then I'd pass
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