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#1 User is offline   jdonn 

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Posted 2008-November-15, 13:48

Q5 K AK986 AK965, r/w imps

1♦ P P ?
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Posted 2008-November-15, 14:20

Tough hand. Really tough.

Double and then 2♣ over 1M looks like a down-the-middle action. Too heavy for 2♣ and 3♣ is too weird for me.

Pass could work but I'm not ready to give up a vul. game for 50 a trick.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 16:12

I'm willing to overbid at R/W. Double and then the cheapest number of clubs.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 17:05

This hand stinks.

I am in the pass out seat with 3 cards in the majors and opener bid my strongest suit and both players passes?

So maybe openers most possible hand is a 4432 with around 13 HCPs. That leaves 8 HCPs for the other two players and makes game unlikely.

I take the outside view and pass. I guess that I will be in some no play 5 Club, 3 NT or defending 4 in a Major when I bid now. So I take the "sure" and little plus.
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Posted 2008-November-15, 17:08

Agree with Roland.

Btw double followed by some number of clubs is not an overbid.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 03:41

I would agree that you have the playing strength for this bid. However I am concerned that partner may bid too high in a major to do this.

For me it's either 2C or pass. I hate both options though,
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Posted 2008-November-16, 11:27

FWIW I bid 2NT. Thoughts?
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Posted 2008-November-16, 11:46

jdonn, on Nov 16 2008, 09:27 AM, said:

FWIW I bid 2NT. Thoughts?

2N is kind of bizarre but might work. This hand isn't exactly a 19-20 point balanced, but its the kind of bid that can work at the table.

I confess I didn't think of it but I like it, at least as an alternative.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 11:52

I think 2NT is a great bid. It is less distorted than double, and probably also more practical.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 12:11

The hand was something like this.
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I was playing with GIBs. Partner bid 4♠ which made, but of course if he had hearts instead that would have been worse. In the end, who knows. I'm certainly happier taking my chances in a vul 4♠ there than collecting 200 against 1♦ (I think in practice it might even end up being less.) But I still think pass is reasonable.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 13:12

Yes, pass is ok. Opps are bound to have a large fit in a major and ended up playing our best suit? Suits me fine :)
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