Large Hadron Collider
#1
Posted 2008-September-11, 01:20
http://hasthelargeha...heworldyet.com/
Junior scientists sacked for using Large Hadron Collider to play conkers
Paul
#2
Posted 2008-September-11, 02:37

I would prefer space exploration to funding either Iraq wars and LHCs, though. There's like gazillions of Euros to be made by space exploration. It's just that the time until your investment pays off is decades...
"Foreign aid" would be even better of course, when done right. But people have been discussing about the right way for decades

#3
Posted 2008-September-11, 05:14
V
"gwnn" said:
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
#4
Posted 2008-September-11, 05:33
"It only cost US $4 billion, barely the price of a middle-class home.....if anyone could afford that either...."

#5
Posted 2008-September-11, 08:36
George Carlin
#6
Posted 2008-September-11, 09:14
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if only people understood the physics behind it rather than just randomly complain..
We are all connected to each other biologically, to the Earth chemically, and to the rest of the universe atomically.
We're in the universe, and the universe is in us.
#7
Posted 2008-September-11, 09:22
As for the economy of the LHC, well history have shown that investment in blind experimentation has often resulted in unexpcted rewards. I'm sure that this will be no different.
Back when we realised that rocks were actually composed of different materials such as iron and salt and coal, it heralded a new era of metallurgy. When we studied the metals and materials more closely and realised that they were made up of elements, the science of chemistry came along. The we studied elements to reveal they were made up of atoms with electrons and nucleii, which led to the field of electronics and electromagnetism. Then we realised the atoms were made up of protons and neutrons which gave us the power of nuclear energy as well as more understanding on radiation used for sterilization, chemotherapy, smoke detectors, etc.
So whose to say that splitting the protons and neutrons further won't achieve more understanding about science and lead to new technologies.
I remember reading somewhere that the total cost of the LHC was something like 0.1% of the world's combined GDP. (Need to check that figure)
But if so, then surely it is a worthwhile investment for something that could be as significant if not moreso than the moonlanding, the splitting of the atom, the discovery of the electron, etc.
#8
Posted 2008-September-11, 09:35
gwnn, on Sep 11 2008, 06:36 AM, said:
Yeah but it sells books and adds to the collection plate.
#9
Posted 2008-September-11, 09:43
#10
Posted 2008-September-11, 09:56
y66, on Sep 11 2008, 10:43 AM, said:
Interesting comment in the HTML:
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The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience is a delight to moralists — that is why they invented hell. — Bertrand Russell
#11
Posted 2008-September-11, 10:16

#12
Posted 2008-September-11, 10:37
Aberlour10, on Sep 11 2008, 04:16 PM, said:

Yeah. I went there the other day. The cards weigh a lot, but the people have big muscles

Nick
#13
Posted 2008-September-11, 10:42
Aberlour10, on Sep 11 2008, 11:16 AM, said:

And hesitations are always allowed...
#14
Posted 2008-September-11, 13:23
Aberlour10, on Sep 11 2008, 11:16 AM, said:

All I know is that my brain sometimes disappears into one while I'm playing....
"gwnn" said:
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
#15
Posted 2008-September-11, 15:13
vuroth, on Sep 11 2008, 02:23 PM, said:
Aberlour10, on Sep 11 2008, 11:16 AM, said:

All I know is that my brain sometimes disappears into one while I'm playing....
Better than the "dark space" when you're not....lol