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Posted 2008-July-11, 12:18

Maybe this is a stupid question...but I'm wondering how you would bid these hands using your favourite gadgets (with a bit more emphasis on a 2/1 system and/or transfer responses if possible).

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Posted 2008-July-11, 12:22

2NT-3(mod. puppet)
3(2-4, 2-3)-3NT (down one)

or

2NT-3(puppet)
3-3
3NT-P (down one)

or

2NT-3(either)-(double)
3(either, but no club stopper)-whatever

The double gets us to 5 eventually, or possibly 4. Bad double.
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Posted 2008-July-11, 13:22

1D - 1H
2NT - 3C*
3D - 3NT
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3C is a transfer to diamonds, 3NT is choice of games with 4 hearts and diamonds. I think opener has a 4H bid.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-July-11, 13:36

andy_h, on Jul 11 2008, 01:18 PM, said:

Maybe this is a stupid question...but I'm wondering how you would bid these hands using your favourite gadgets (with a bit more emphasis on a 2/1 system and/or transfer responses if possible).

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2d!=3c!
3d!=3h
4d=5d
p


2d=18-19 bal....(mexican 2d)
3c=mild d slam try or two suits, d and major. g/f.
3d=forced
3h=5d+ and 4 hearts
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Posted 2008-July-11, 13:59

han, on Jul 11 2008, 11:22 AM, said:

1D - 1H
2NT - 3C*
3D - 3NT
..

3C is a transfer to diamonds, 3NT is choice of games with 4 hearts and diamonds. I think opener has a 4H bid.

I would repeat this auction playing standardish.

With Phil, it would start:

1* - 1**
1N*** - ?

* Natural or 11-13 bal or 17-19 bal
** 4+
*** 17-19 bal, no 4

From here it's just what responder wants to do with that. I can see responder just bidding 3NT here. Or he may bid 2 then 3 showing 4, 5 and game forcing values (in which case 3NT would be avoided since opener could bid 3 showing the club concern). But it's purely speculative seeing both hands what we'd do at the table.
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Posted 2008-July-11, 14:22

1D-1H-2N-3N. Unlike Ken I will make 2 overtricks rather than go down 1.
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Posted 2008-July-11, 14:50

Here's how Elianna and I would bid it:

1 - 1
1 - 2
2 - 3
3 - 4

First four bids are natural. Note that we prefer not to rebid 2NT with 18/19 balanced. This keeps us low when responder has garbage (yes we will sometimes bid 1 pretty light) and also gives us more room to explore for the right game or slam. Opener's 2 rebid is natural and shows extra values. Responder has a great hand on this auction and wants to cooperate, but doesn't have a fifth heart or a club stopper so bids 3 "fourth suit forcing." Opener's 3 call shows three very strong hearts and denies interest in playing 3NT (or serious slam interest in diamonds opposite a good hand with no club control). Responder's hearts are good enough to cooperate.

Note how much easier this is when you don't bypass your spade suit and heart fit in order to rebid 2NT without a club stopper. There is certainly some judgement involved in this auction, but the first four bids are basically automatic in our style and after this start I don't see much chance of landing anywhere but 4 or 5.
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Posted 2008-July-12, 00:26

I'd bid:

1 - 1
1 - 1NT
2NT - 3
3 - 3NT
4 - pass

1=2+, 1=trf, 1=3c+, 1NT=nat, 2NT=18-19 3c, 3=trf, 3=fit, 3NT=suggestion to play (2452), 4=suggestion to play (alternative contract is 5)
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Posted 2008-July-12, 03:38

Gadgets? What gadgets?

1D - 1H
2NT - 3D
3H - 3NT
4D - 5D
P

1D = natural
1H = natural
2NT = 18-19 bal
3D = natural
3H = natural
3NT = natural
4D = natural slam try (South has a HUGE hand opposite diamonds)
5D = encouraging but nothing to cue bid (i.e. good trumps)
P = oops two club losers

At matchpoints I might have been in 4H, with 4H over 3NT from South but it's easy at imps.
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Posted 2008-July-12, 04:16

1 - 1
2NT* - 3*
3* - 3NT*
4/5 - pass

2NT = bal 18-19 / GF raise / 6+3
3 = 4M and 5+m
3 = relay
3NT = 5+
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Posted 2008-July-12, 09:39

FrancesHinden, on Jul 12 2008, 04:38 AM, said:

Gadgets? What gadgets?

1D - 1H
2NT - 3D
3H - 3NT
4D - 5D
P

A forcing 3D? Fancy!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-July-12, 10:25

han, on Jul 12 2008, 04:39 PM, said:

FrancesHinden, on Jul 12 2008, 04:38 AM, said:

Gadgets?  What gadgets?

1D - 1H
2NT - 3D
3H - 3NT
4D - 5D
P

A forcing 3D? Fancy!

Yeah, sorry, that was a bit new age.
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