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#1 User is offline   oojah 

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Posted 2008-July-10, 09:35

1♠ (X) 2♦

Playing 2/1 is 2♦ weak, strong, forcing. non forcing? , what is it in SAYC too?
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Posted 2008-July-10, 09:39

barring playing transfers in this position, the common method for both SA and 2/1 is 2D is natural, constructive, and non-forcing.
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Posted 2008-July-10, 09:40

SoTired, on Jul 10 2008, 10:39 AM, said:

barring playing transfers in this position, the common method for both SA and 2/1 is 2D is natural, constructive, and non-forcing.

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Posted 2008-July-10, 10:22

This is an American methods sub-forum, so here's an off-topic reply: in England at least this is played as non-forcing by roughly 30% of the population and forcing by 70% (of those who play it as natural).
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Posted 2008-July-10, 10:26

We had a poll about this a few months ago (can't find it now). There was wild disagreement about the strength of 2♦, some requiring zero points, some 6, some 8. Some would play the upper limit as just below game force (say 11 points), some would play it as max. 9 points.

But almost everybody agreed that it is non-forcing (although some prefered to play transfers).
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Posted 2008-July-10, 11:07

Yeah, depends on what you want to agree with your partner.

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Posted 2008-July-10, 19:07

Seems NF to me. But yes, I agree it is very ambiguous and varies between partnerships.
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Posted 2008-July-10, 20:34

Shows constructive values but is NF. I think transfers are a good idea here.
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Posted 2008-July-10, 20:48

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Posted 2008-July-10, 21:53

NF
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Posted 2008-July-11, 01:00

It is 95 % nonforcing in tis Forum.
It is 70% nf on BBo
It is 50 % nf in Germany
It is 20 % Nf in France.

Just a guess.

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Posted 2008-July-11, 01:09

Standard is NF. IMO the range should be 4-9 pts and a nice suit.
Transfers here are probably a better method.
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