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Poll: stop or go? (18 member(s) have cast votes)

stop or go?

  1. pass (4 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  2. 4NT (8 votes [44.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.44%

  3. 5 diamonds (2 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  4. other (4 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2008-April-12, 15:51

KQ763
73
K4
J1098

S - N
ps-2NT
3*-4*
??

3 = transfer but GF
4 = maximum with control in all suits
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Posted 2008-April-12, 15:58

I'll check on aces before bidding 6.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 16:38

Pass.

Can't think of a way to progress it. Not odds on in my opinion.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 16:41

I'll just bid 6, I don't want them to know whether they have 0 or 1 aces when they defend since I'm so confident partner has at least three. Things like that are underestimated IMO.

I don't see giving up. It's easy to construct lots of hands that make slam.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 17:45

I reckon that it is less likely that blackwood will pinpoint the killing defence to the opponents than that it will identify 2 missing aces. Both are unlikely, I agree. Still, I check on Aces.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 21:24

We know that partner has the two pointed Aces. We also know that he has a "maximum," but that this "maximum" is in the context of a transfer to spades. He will not have great interest in a hand with only one of the top three spades and only two total Aces.

Thus, he has at least two.

There is even almost a ba-da-bing hand, where a grand makes (7). Axxx Axx Ax AKQx. But, that's too much. Partner would surely not open 2NT, or, if he did for some strange reason, would not bid a mere 4.

So, you cannot make 7, but it seems rare that 6 is not playable, with asking bids doing nothing to clarify.

So, I agree with Josh -- 6.

If partner super-accepted with some garbage like AJxx KQx AQxx KQ, we will discuss super-acceptances again, over dinner.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 01:34

rogerclee, on Apr 12 2008, 09:58 PM, said:

I'll check on aces before bidding 6.

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Posted 2008-April-13, 03:03

kenrexford, on Apr 13 2008, 04:24 AM, said:

If partner super-accepted with some garbage like AJxx KQx AQxx KQ, we will discuss super-acceptances again, over dinner.

I might discuss it over dinner, but at the table I am not going to crucify him for a lapse of judgement when I have an easy way to protect against it.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

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Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

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Posted 2008-April-14, 01:05

What would 5NT mean here? GSF or pick a slam?
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Posted 2008-April-14, 03:29

Partner held

AJx
AKx
AJ10
Axxx

4<<3NT<<6<<6NT

I though about bidding 4NT and bidding 6 only if partner held the 4 aces, I wonder if this makes sense ever.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 08:52

I like 5 with these hands. Invites, but doesn't over-commit.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 09:49

Fluffy, on Apr 14 2008, 04:29 AM, said:

Partner held

AJx
AKx
AJ10
Axxx

4<<3NT<<6<<6NT

I though about bidding 4NT and bidding 6 only if partner held the 4 aces, I wonder if this makes sense ever.

Sorry my fault for misreading the auction. I thought you said partner super accepted :P

Oh wait I bid slam anyway. Phew. Good bid partner?
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