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Take the plus?

Poll: or go for more? (29 member(s) have cast votes)

or go for more?

  1. Pass (8 votes [27.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.59%

  2. 2 diamonds (21 votes [72.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 72.41%

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Posted 2008-April-05, 12:33

Scoring: IMP

1♥ (2♣) P (P)
X (P) ?

Usually they refer to passing a takeout double as taking the plus, but here 2♦ looks like a safe plus. Do you try to go for a higher plus by passing?

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Posted 2008-April-05, 13:01

2♦. I'll regret this if pard is 4522...
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Posted 2008-April-05, 13:13

Hi,

2D.

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Posted 2008-April-05, 13:54

Lets dance JLALL
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Posted 2008-April-05, 14:02

I passed with 4 damonds and 5 clubs last weekened same bidding, it was -280, I learnt the lesson.
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Posted 2008-April-05, 16:21

jdonn, on Apr 5 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

Lets dance JLALL

Bring it.

With the best declarer ever on your right I think you have to bid otherwise your soul will get owned.
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Posted 2008-April-05, 22:20

Jlall, on Apr 6 2008, 11:21 AM, said:

jdonn, on Apr 5 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

Lets dance JLALL

Bring it.

With the best declarer ever on your right I think you have to bid otherwise your soul will get owned.

That's why he is passing with you as RHO Justin :)
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Posted 2008-April-05, 23:14

whereagles, on Apr 5 2008, 11:01 AM, said:

2♦. I'll regret this if pard is 4522...

You'll regret pass even more if pard is 2542.

2♦ for me.
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Posted 2008-April-06, 02:39

I think this is close and I would just 2♦.
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Posted 2008-April-06, 07:35

Partner wants me to take out, I have no strong reason to leave in. BTW, I think 2♥ should be in the poll as well, as that is probably what I would want to bid. Partner with diamonds and hearts would have bid 2♦ rather than double.
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Posted 2008-April-06, 10:14

V vs non..and passing is not putting them into game, but we get only 100 for setting them 1. I think my overall defensive prospects aren't good enough to expect to clobber 2♣.

If PD is min, they may make, perhaps overcaller is sitting over Opener's tenaces, or has a stiff ♥ and 6 or even 7♣ and a max and makes an OT.

I just don't see where passing is worth the risk here, and I have a decent 5 card ♦ suit to bid. I somewhat prefer 2♦ (hoping for a 5-3 fit) to 2♥ as I don't expect my PD's to hold 6♥ very often on this auction. Perhaps PD has lots of extras and my 2♦ bid gets us to game and while not, likely 600 out scores 300 (as they'd likely be down 2 then)
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Posted 2008-April-06, 11:18

It's imps, we're defending 2mX, I have 3 likely tricks. Let's roll.
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Posted 2008-April-06, 12:19

inquiry, on Apr 6 2008, 08:35 AM, said:

Partner wants me to take out

Sorry but I always feel the need to jump on it when people say this. Partner doesn't want us to do anything. He wants us to do what we think is right, and is just describing his hand as best he can to try and give us the chance.
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Posted 2008-April-06, 12:22

2D

For me partner is not showing anything extra. I don't have a convincing double of 2C. I do have a reasonable bid available.
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Posted 2008-April-06, 23:26

2H, pretty clear cut. No guarantee at all I have 3 tricks and who says partner has 3?
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Posted 2008-April-06, 23:31

The_Hog, on Apr 6 2008, 09:26 PM, said:

2H, pretty clear cut. No guarantee at all I have 3 tricks and who says partner has 3?

right sentiment, wrong red suit. 2♦. Why play in a suit that we suspect is a 5-2 fit instead of a suit that we might have a 5-3 or 5-4? If partner is some 4-6-2-1 hand, he'll correct to 2♥.
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Posted 2008-April-07, 02:18

2D wtp. What ive noticed in those problem is that those who are reopening without extras values are often the first to pass for penalty.

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2H, pretty clear cut.

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I think 2♥ should be in the poll as well, as that is probably what I would want to bid.

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Posted 2008-April-07, 03:32

Pass wtp :blink:
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Posted 2008-April-07, 06:52

cherdano, on Apr 5 2008, 01:33 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♥ (2♣) P (P)
X (P) ?
Usually they refer to passing a takeout double as taking the plus, but here 2♦ looks like a safe plus. Do you try to go for a higher plus by passing? RHO is Justin if it matters to you.

IMO _P = 10, 2♦ = 9, 2♥ = 6.
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