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#1 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2007-August-28, 23:17

It's always nerveracking when you play a team game on BBO with a fair number of kibitzers and the best bidder in world sits in your chair at the other table. He treated this hand entirely differently than I did:

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(1) - 2 - (3) - Dbl;
(p) - 4 - (p) - ??


3S was preemptive. Do you agree with the responsive double?

What's your call now?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-28, 23:22

I must admit I would have bid 4s last round but this may be some nonexpert level bid.

Now? If, if 4d is rkc for clubs I would try that now.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 00:29

KCs for clubs? Wow, your parts overcalls must be very solid and your opps openings more then light. Pd needs at least x, KQx,Axx,KJxxxx for a slam.

I try 5 Club.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 01:22

no bid fits perfectly, and we might very well be off 2 aces. or 1+1. Even 2 spade losers is possible.

On BBO I'd bid 4, and hope partner takes it the right way. On real life 5 to avoid disasters.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 01:22

no bid fits perfectly, and we might very well be off 2 aces. or 1+1. Even 2 spade losers is possible.

On BBO I'd bid 4, and hope partner takes it the right way. On real life 5 to avoid disasters.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 02:19

reluctant to agree with Mike, but 4S on the previous round (which avoids any prospect of playing in H!) was a fair shot for slam investigation, but now since I am subtitutung and could not argue with the attempt to find H - if I play DI, I like 4NT as a slam-try for C!
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Posted 2007-August-29, 02:31

Agree with the responsive dbl. Now 5. Maybe 4 should show this hand but I'm not sure if it does. Anyway, 5 must be an acceptable spot at IMPs. If I want to bid slam I just do it right away.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 02:57

No to responsive double. 4 for me.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 06:25

I would have bid 5C the first time, so that's what I would bid now.

If I miss a light slam, it won't be the first time ;)

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Posted 2007-August-29, 08:39

Slam tries? Wow...

Keycard? wow, and wow!

I agree with the responsive double.

Now the straightforward bid is 5.

It is tempting to bid 4, on the basis that doubling first and then 4 should show a different hand than an immediate 4 call... but, while it clearly shows a different hand, does it show a heart-club two-suiter (which is what I have, in context) or a red two-suiter?

If I expected partner to get it 'right', I'd try 4, but I don't think that is realistic, so I bid the tame 5.

I just noted that my post is almost identical to Helene's ;)
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Posted 2007-August-29, 08:42

5C, along with others.

I don't think 4D is right. For one thing, what would you bid if you were 1-5-6-1 with a good hand?
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  Posted 2007-August-29, 08:50

4 KC? That's not only nuts, it's blatantly nuts.

With an experienced partner I try 4 (I don't play responsive dbls in this situation with Larry). Anyone else, it's 5.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 09:32

I'd bid 4 now - a good raise to 5.
If partner has Roland's example hand: x KQx Axx KJxxxx he'll most probably bid slam. And that's not much better than my minimum 2 overcalls. With x Qxx Axx KJTxxx partner will bid 5.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 09:42

1. I agree with the Responsive Double. Since we hold the A and Q, pard likely has a 6 card club suit holding the K and J.
Would he overcall with a 5 card broken suit?

2. I will just bid 5 and hope we make it. We may have a spade, and a diamond or heart loser or two.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 11:25

Just 5. I've had a few hands over the past 24 hours where I've hoped for perfect hands and gotten stung.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 14:57

I bid 4H, I was confident that my partner (cherdano) would interpret this as I intended but he would not expect sclubs as good as these.

My LHO doubled 4H, partner passed. Now what?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-29, 15:02

Hannie, on Aug 29 2007, 09:57 PM, said:

I bid 4H, I was confident that my partner (cherdano) would interpret this as I intended but he would not expect sclubs as good as these.

My LHO doubled 4H, partner passed. Now what?

Pass, partner passes, he's fine with it
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Posted 2007-August-29, 15:03

I would have bid 5 over 4. I would certainly bid 5 now. You have suppressed your club support far too long.

The double is interesting. Presumably, LHO (who I am assuming is a good player) would not double 4 if that were the only contract that he could beat. But I can't make a good argument for passing out 4x.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 15:21

Hannie, on Aug 29 2007, 12:17 AM, said:

It's always nerveracking when you play a team game on BBO with a fair number of kibitzers and the best bidder in world sits in your chair at the other table.

Who?
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Posted 2007-August-29, 15:40

I was, with the best bidder sitting in my chair at the other table.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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