[Bruno73]

Hi everybody,

Among the many user options provided by the BBO software, there is an "autoplay singletons" one in the section entitled "at a table".

Surprisingly I just realized I can't activate it anymore (has it been removed already?), but frequently (not so often actually, less than once per day) I can see some players using it (through an old software version?).

My suggestion, if not done yet, would be not to allow this option anymore.

The reason is simple: when on, "by definition" it shows to every other player at the table that there was a remaining singleton in the suit led! (Because the card is then played super fast.) Thus it gives some unauthorized info to both partner and opps.

Thanks for your attention.

Bruno

[Rain]

It is not disabled.

Click on OPTIONS -> AT A TABLE

It should still be there. Not that I recommend usage. Players should do what they like. Can it really be UI, if as you say, everyone knows it's a singleton?

[scoob]

ironically enough, it seems to be disabled only when you are not actually currently at a table...

[Bruno73]

I suggest you try the option to see its effect! I have no doubt it is easy to detect when some player has it on. (Thus it also informs about the absence of singletons!)

About the UI issue, here are two examples among many of the same kind:

- Declarer holds KJxxx and dummy Axxx in some suit. He cashes the Ace first, but when doing this he can see his LHO had a singleton: "easy" and not fair to try the Q finesse then...

- As a defender you win a trick led by the declarer, but you could see/detect your partner's remaining singleton. Then you know he may ruff your return in that suit...

To solve this problem and those related to the playing and bidding tempos (still allowing the auto-play option for convenience), I would suggest that:

1) no card could appear to be played in less than 1 seconde at the table
2) no bid could appear to be made in less than, say, 2 or 3 secondes (for instance fast passes or doubles are sometimes meaningful I think)

Of course every BBO game is not a world championship, but I believe it would improve the game fairness.

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Bruno

[mrdct]

Bruno73, on Jun 23 2007, 11:24 AM, said:

To solve this problem and those related to the playing and bidding tempos (still allowing the auto-play option for convenience), I would suggest that:

1) no card could appear to be played in less than 1 seconde at the table
2) no bid could appear to be made in less than, say, 2 or 3 secondes (for instance fast passes or doubles are sometimes meaningful I think)

I think that's an absolutely fantastic idea and should be implemented as soon as possible.

At the same time, may as well get rid of the auto-play singleton option altogther as no person in their right mind would elect to use that option and as noted above it creates too many unnecessary UI siutations.

[Rossoneri]

mrdct, on Jun 24 2007, 01:31 PM, said:

Bruno73, on Jun 23 2007, 11:24 AM, said:

To solve this problem and those related to the playing and bidding tempos (still allowing the auto-play option for convenience), I would suggest that:

1) no card could appear to be played in less than 1 seconde at the table
2) no bid could appear to be made in less than, say, 2 or 3 secondes (for instance fast passes or doubles are sometimes meaningful I think)

I think that's an absolutely fantastic idea and should be implemented as soon as possible.

At the same time, may as well get rid of the auto-play singleton option altogther as no person in their right mind would elect to use that option and as noted above it creates too many unnecessary UI siutations.

Agreed.

Rain: It most definitely is UI.