[mike777]

cherdano, on Apr 9 2007, 05:02 PM, said:

mike777, on Apr 9 2007, 01:24 PM, said:

Cohen has a whole chapter on it. Perhaps this is an exception to the general rule, but yes Bergen/Cohen say in general do not make takeout x with a void and esp in the balance seat as here.

In general you maybe be right, but with three aces and two kings, I promise you Bergen/Cohen would double, too. As skaeran says, when you have a minimal unbalanced hand and a void it is dangeous to double.

Well this may or may not be the exception. Cohen or Bergen do not have an example with a hand this good nor do they discuss a hand this strong. They are silent on the issue.

Hope to see the full hand soon, ty JB.

[jillybean]

Here it is!

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 -     -     -     Pass
 Pass  Pass  1♣    2♦
 Pass  Pass  ?  

[mike777]

jillybean2, on Apr 9 2007, 06:59 PM, said:

Here it is!

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West  North East  South

 -     -     -     Pass
 Pass  Pass  1♣    2♦
 Pass  Pass  ?  

Well just my luck I read somewhere I should lead trumps against low level doubled partscores, the one lead that would let them make this thing? Good thing I bid 2s if I or my pard is going to lead poorly. Can I make 2s or maybe defend 3D next????

[the hog]

If you X you will be playing 3S. Pd won't pass with this miserable D holding, but will bid 2S. You now have an automatic raise to 3.
2D makes on any lead, except if suffering a H ruff.
3S has problems because of being forced at trick 1.

[mike777]

The_Hog, on Apr 9 2007, 07:30 PM, said:

If you X you will be playing 3S. Pd won't pass with this miserable D holding, but will bid 2S. You now have an automatic raise to 3.
2D makes on any lead, 3S has problems because of being forced at trick 1.

It seems 2d should go down on a heart ruff with any lead but my trump lead. In any case we may play 2s or 3d with my rebid of 2s.