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Hand II from GNT Qualifier

Poll: Balancing problem (34 member(s) have cast votes)

Balancing problem

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Double and pass after 2D by pard (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Double and 2N after 2D by pard (8 votes [23.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

  4. Double and 3C after 2D by pard (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 1N (11-16 ish) (10 votes [29.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

  6. 2C (16 votes [47.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.06%

  7. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2006-March-22, 13:31

IMPs, short matches

LHO opens 1, pass, pass to you

Scoring: IMP


Your call (and follow-up) please?
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Posted 2006-March-22, 13:34

Clearly one of those hands where almost anything could be right. I'll go with my usual (non-mainstream I know) style and bid my best suit. 2. :)
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Posted 2006-March-22, 13:35

2C for me. Xing and bidding 2N or pass over 2D doesn't appeal.
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Posted 2006-March-22, 13:37

1NT for me...
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Posted 2006-March-22, 13:48

1NT

Tough hand

x is a very close second choice planning on passing 2D.
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Posted 2006-March-22, 14:40

I voted for 1NT, 2C is the only other option imo and I have no problem with that.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-March-22, 14:47

2 at imps (short match).

1NT at MP (higher scoring.. yes 2C making 3 scores higher than 1NT down one, but you get the idea).
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Posted 2006-March-22, 15:28

Dbl + 2H playing ELC.
Dbl + 3C otherwise.
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Posted 2006-March-22, 15:31

whereagles, on Mar 23 2006, 12:28 AM, said:

Dbl + 2H playing ELC.
Dbl + 3C otherwise.

Sorry... Somewhat confused by your posting:

Are you advocating starting with a double and then correcting 2 to 3?
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Posted 2006-March-22, 17:01

Partner has no long suit to bid, so i presume he has a balanced hand. RHO probably has short and long .
I think 2 is the best bid because I don't think the bidding is over yet after this bid. And later I can still bid something to tell partner I'm really strong.
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Posted 2006-March-22, 17:30

I would bid 3 usually 13-15 with 5+ clubs.
It seems to be quite a good description of what I have.


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Posted 2006-March-22, 18:00

i'd bid 1nt
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Posted 2006-March-22, 18:07

luis, on Mar 23 2006, 02:30 AM, said:

I would bid 3 usually 13-15 with 5+ clubs.
It seems to be quite a good description of what I have.


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I'm skeptical that this suit is good enough for a direct seat overcall at the 2 level.
I might, on occasion, be forced to make such a bid, but I wouldn't be happy about it.

Volutarily jumping to 3 with a crappy 5 card club suit and a hand that is playable in two other suits seems dubious at best. I'm certainly not going to strain to make such a bid with a number of better calls available including

1N
Double (intending to pass 2)
Even 2 is reasonable...
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Posted 2006-March-22, 18:35

I voted for double then 2N.

Any thoughts for 2S? is that hearts and a minor or is it any two suiter?
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Posted 2006-March-22, 18:45

Silly question for all those advocating double followed by rebidding 2NT over 2

A balancing NT over a major shows (roughly) 10-16 HCP

A jump to 2NT in the balancing seat shows (roughly) 19-20 HCP. As I recall, we just had a poll where 84% of folks used this to show a strong balanced hand.

Any of you NT rebids at all worried that partner is going to play you for an 17-18 count?
If not, you should be...
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Posted 2006-March-22, 18:47

Double, and then 2N over 1N or 2 by partner. 4 (or more likely 3N) are not out of the question. 2 in the balancing sit is a much weaker bid than in any other position. 3 with just 5 cards and with a hearts suit does not appeal to me.
1N shows 11-14 in a standard treatment.

Limey, in the balancing sit a direct cue-bid is a strong take-out; and 2N shows 19-21: in a standard treatment, two-suiters are not used.

Edit: I had not realised that 1N would be up to 16sh. Bit of a wide range but it makes the 1N option more attractive
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Posted 2006-March-23, 05:19

Dbl followed by 2NT. I have 15-17 semibalanced with 1.5 stop if partner has s... suit is rubish!

With FREEWILL overcalls I'd bid 2 showing maximum 15HCP and 4+ and 4+. Very easy :P
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Posted 2006-March-23, 06:07

1NT, protective 1NT over 1 should have a slightly higher top end of the range, so as to avoid driving to 2NT.
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Posted 2006-March-23, 06:31

I'd love to have my usual agreement here that 2 now shows "this hand": 4, a longer minor and a strong hand afraid a direct 2m-bid will be passed.

If not I"d just bid 2.
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Posted 2006-March-23, 08:11

My teammate held this hand. He doubled and passed (!?) the 2 response. His pard held: QJ, xx, AQxxx, T8xx. -2 in the Burns fit when diamonds were foul.

We defended a club partial, so lose 6 on a seemingly simple hand.

I think a 2 or 1N balance are reasonable, if heavy. Double followed by 2N is just too much I think.

I held as dealer: Kxxxx, QTx, 9x, AQx and passed; another 5332 11 count with spades - see other thread where you choose between dbling and passing 3. In the same 6 board match LOL.

3N's interesting but it doesn't seem to fetch.

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