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Posted 2026-July-10, 09:50

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South is a beginner and was clearly very uncomfortable about 3, next round took the plunge to 3NT.
How do you read partner's double and what is your call?
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Posted 2026-July-10, 10:02

The double is convertible and I am in a tough spot.
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
"You need to play a lot of stuff these days just to deal with the stuff your opponents are playing" DBurn
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Posted 2026-July-10, 10:10

Assuming you think East is experienced, what are your options?

Bidding 4H, a contract both of you rejected or Pass.

I would Pass.

If the beginner did the right thing, i.e. counting to 8-9
tricks (6 being provided by the diamond suit, 1 by the heart
stopper he showed, and 1-2 rest of his hand), congratulate him (*),
ask him to play with you next time he is av., if on the other
hand 4H is a disaster, you owe your p at least one drink for
insulting him, you may loose a future partner.

(*) 8 ticks translating to 100 vs. 140, assuming you got the colors right,
if it is 200, still invite him, but point out that -1X beats all part scores.
With kind regards
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Posted 2026-July-10, 12:27

seems Pass is clear, what am I missing?
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Posted 2026-July-10, 12:36

If partner was willing to play 3H, then he or she is on their own with this double. I have nothing left to say, at least in the bidding.
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Posted Today, 09:33

View Postjillybean, on 2026-July-10, 10:02, said:

The double is convertible and I am in a tough spot.

That's what my partner was thinking too: they chose 4.


View PostP_Marlowe, on 2026-July-10, 10:10, said:

Assuming you think East is experienced, what are your options?

Bidding 4H, a contract both of you rejected or Pass.

I would Pass.
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View Postmike777, on 2026-July-10, 12:27, said:

seems Pass is clear, what am I missing?



View PostWasWinM, on 2026-July-10, 12:36, said:

If partner was willing to play 3H, then he or she is on their own with this double. I have nothing left to say, at least in the bidding.


That's what I expected partner to think.
We both already said no to 4.
But partner saw it differently so I desired a sanity check.
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Posted Today, 09:46

Here is the full board.

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Not surprisingly, 4-1 scored badly although not a real disaster.
But 3NTx-3 on a heart lead would have been a national top.
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Posted Today, 10:06

How would 3NT-3 have scored?
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Posted Today, 10:08

I hope south joins bbf
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted Today, 11:50

View Postpescetom, on 2026-July-10, 09:50, said:

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South is a beginner and was clearly very uncomfortable about 3, next round took the plunge to 3NT.
How do you read partner's double and what is your call?

Why would this not be the classic "they're bluffing. Pass and lead a heart?"

The important part is the lead direction.
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Posted Today, 12:47

View PostDavidKok, on 2026-July-12, 10:06, said:

How would 3NT-3 have scored?

Somewhere between 69% (-140) and 85% (-170), at national level.
But I had no reason that I can see to expect -3.
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Posted Today, 12:49

View Postjillybean, on 2026-July-12, 10:08, said:

I hope south joins bbf


Sometimes I suspect south already posts as @jillybean :lol:

But FWIW south is regularly informed about bbf and other forums and just grunts and goes back to watching tennis.
In any case I prefer to have independent judgement of what is right, it's all too easy to convince each other or give in today because tomorrow.
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Posted Today, 13:07

How do I get bbo extractor to extract 3nt contracts from my team games for the last 4 months?
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
"You need to play a lot of stuff these days just to deal with the stuff your opponents are playing" DBurn
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