[asbell]

https://www.bridgeba...CQ%7Cpc%7CHT%7C

Hi, first post here; former computer programmer (modelling sports). The robots seem to be worse than ever, especially in (a) judging competitive auctions and (b) on lead.

I know they generally lead passively but they simply have to recognise when that isn't appropriate. Just now the robot (a) didn't lead a club when I had doubled Stayman, choosing instead a doubleton spade; and on the board above it must recognise that my (thin) double requires us to take top tricks asap.

I appreciate that these threads are monitored; I would be interested in trying to help improve the robots; if that is of any interest to those at BBO please drop me a line.

Thanks, Aaron

[mike777]

asbell, on 2026-February-23, 16:16, said:

https://www.bridgeba...CQ%7Cpc%7CHT%7C

Hi, first post here; former computer programmer (modelling sports). The robots seem to be worse than ever, especially in (a) judging competitive auctions and (b) on lead.

I know they generally lead passively but they simply have to recognise when that isn't appropriate. Just now the robot (a) didn't lead a club when I had doubled Stayman, choosing instead a doubleton spade; and on the board above it must recognise that my (thin) double requires us to take top tricks asap.

I appreciate that these threads are monitored; I would be interested in trying to help improve the robots; if that is of any interest to those at BBO please drop me a line.

Thanks, Aaron

the lead was not the major issue, at all.....
The competitive bidding was not the major issue, at all....
It was the constructive bidding in a competitive auction...


It may help to realize robot bridge is not real bridge, it is something else.....

[asbell]

mike777, on 2026-February-23, 16:39, said:

the lead was not the major issue, at all.....
The competitive bidding was not the major issue, at all....
It was the constructive bidding in a competitive auction...


It may help to realize robot bridge is not real bridge, it is something else.....

Oh I realise I overbid my hand per the robot's descriptions (it was the last board in a tourney). But the lead is still really bad, imo.

And, yes, robot bridge is not real bridge. Yet. But why shouldn't we aspire for it to be a lot closer? It seems there are some relatively simple fixes that could be made; perhaps some of it requires a total reimagining and rewiring of GIB. Maybe Ben is supposed to be the solution to all of it but I'm not that encouraged from what I've seen so far.

[mike777]

My guess is the technology is here today.
Just someone with a lot of money and time to build the bot. Right now there does not seem to be a financial reason to do that

[asbell]

mike777, on 2026-February-23, 18:02, said:

My guess is the technology is here today.
Just someone with a lot of money and time to build the bot. Right now there does not seem to be a financial reason to do that

I agree. And I have the time

[Joe_Old]

I'd be happy if the bots returned my lead, or lead my suit, once in a while.