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Do you OBAR? If you, what is your bid?

#1 User is online   P_Marlowe 

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Posted 2025-August-26, 11:02

Hi,

this is from a Cuebids bidding Session Event, you are taking part with your wife.
I am giving you her hand.
I think scoring matters.

You hold all red in 1st seat

K7543
Q532
KQ72

You decided to pass in 1st seat, feel free to comment, but I am fully behind this
bid.

The bots play a simple 2/1 GF system.

Pass - (1) - Pass - (2)
???

Do you go in, if you do, which option do you choose?
X or 2NT?

As always reason is more important than being right.

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Posted 2025-August-26, 12:49

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Posted 2025-August-26, 13:57

Hi,

#1 I looked it up, it is my first time ... I have read Advanced Robot written somewhere
It is a Group Event Daily Challenge.
#2 I am more interested in the real world, but obv. you get the Cuebids Score / Evaluation
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Posted 2025-August-26, 15:03

I am on Cuebids, often it is not our hand, so I don't understand David's comment

I don't know anything about daily challenge, I just practice bidding


In any case I double, I could hardly have more as a passed hand.
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Posted 2025-August-27, 00:22

View Postmike777, on 2025-August-26, 15:03, said:

I am on Cuebids, often it is not our hand, so I don't understand David's comment

I don't know anything about daily challenge, I just practice bidding
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We are at a Bridge Camp at the moment, and they have create a group, and anybody
taking part in the Camp could join.
Every day they have a Event, which is basically a set of hand that can be bid,
either alone ( you select a bot as p ) or with a human p.
The results are compared in a leader board.
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Posted 2025-August-27, 01:56

I think it is clear to double rather than bid 2NT.

The double says you can play in three suits, 2NT says you have two places to play.

For example, if partner holds four spades, singleton heart, five diamonds and three clubs then they are fixed over 2NT: they have to bid 3 fearing you hold hearts and clubs, so you play in a 4-3 fit rather than your 5-4 fit.
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Posted 2025-August-27, 09:50

As an OBARer, double's great, provided I can guarantee my next decision is whether I need to pull out my hand on the next board to find the spade to return through declarer.

Having said that, I'll probably do it anyway, because partner knows I'm "balancing" and don't need to have enough strength to set 2 even with their two or three spade tricks. But as the Emperor says, "The difference between -800 and -790 isn't worth a lot of effort. Don't expect partner to congratulate you for the improvement."
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Posted 2025-August-27, 10:39

At MPs, +200 is a great score, +140 is good, and -200 and -670 are almost equally bad.

At IMPs, +200 is good, +140 is almost as good, -200 is bad, and -670 is terrible.

I'm doubling at MPs and bidding 3 at IMPs. (There's even a small chance of +620, which we'll never get to with anything other than 3.)
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Posted Yesterday, 00:33

Hi,

time to wrap things up.

I did have

KJ632
JT8

AJ983

My wife went with X, which I decided to convert, sitting over the opener.
The Cuebid score was not great, it was EV -166, which means that the 2S will
be made quite often.

After seeing her hand

#1 I was glad she decided to go in.
#2 I suggested 2N as arbitary 2-suited hand, ... but PaulG summed it up quite nicely,
X gets 3-suits in, 2NT only 2, and over a 3C / 3D response you have no clue, if
this is really your best fit

Feel free to comment on my final pass, may it be only "T/O" doubles are meant to be
taken out.

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Posted Yesterday, 09:06

Thought her double was clear
Thought your pass was clear
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