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jillybean, on 2025-August-20, 09:47, said:
What does 1nt show? please don't say this hand 
1NT showes live and a stopper, 2C is a nothing bid, it is the least evil bid,
it only denies holding a 4 card major suit.
Can we both be exonerated?
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Posted 2025-August-20, 10:48
1NT showes live and a stopper, 2C is a nothing bid, it is the least evil bid,
it only denies holding a 4 card major suit.
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2025-August-20, 12:54
jillybean, on 2025-August-20, 09:47, said:
What does 1nt show? please don't say this hand
Jeff Rubens argued that 1NT should be values for a jump response but no 5-card suit or good 4-card. I am convinced.
By the way, West didn't underbid, they UNDERbid.
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Posted 2025-August-20, 15:45
Cyberyeti, on 2025-August-20, 09:58, said:
8-11 ish, diamond stop, no 4M, not enough or good enough diamonds to pass
So, an offer to play opposite a minimum.ish, And the shape doesn’t come into consideration?
Just read Bluenikki and Merlowe's posts that appeared while I was replying to this.
Ok, I can loosen up even more on my 1nt bids, but probably not with this shape.
It's funny, 1nt started out as my least favorite bid or contract to play in.
Now it has become one of my favorite opening bids and contracts to play.
I went looking for the AED after the 2C bid.
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Posted 2025-August-21, 01:56
Shape is a consideration. With a 4cM you show it. With a 5c♦ pass is more attractive, though you may wish to allow for exceptions here. With a 6c♣ you show it, and with a 5c♣ you may show it. Putting that together, the bid shows one of:
If you show 5 clubs ahead of a diamond stop always, which is also very reasonable, then 1NT shows '3=3=4=4 minus a card' or the 5c♦ exception hands.
- 3=3=(43)
- (23)=4=4
- x=y=4=5, no 4cM
- (23)=3=5, prefers to show the diamond values over the clubs (these might not exist)
- 5c♦ exception hands that don't want to pass (these might not exist)
If you show 5 clubs ahead of a diamond stop always, which is also very reasonable, then 1NT shows '3=3=4=4 minus a card' or the 5c♦ exception hands.